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Author Topic: Gaming Block (Game Discussion Thread) (Totally Not Roller's Block)  (Read 415777 times)

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Re: Gaming Block (Game Discussion Thread) (Totally Not Roller's Block)
« Reply #345 on: July 10, 2013, 11:59:35 pm »

Don't forget strength, fragility, flexibility, and special abilities related to their construction/and or legendariness. And speed.
Yeah yeah, whatever. As long as they all come together to make an interesting system that I can use to build awesome swords so I can make a badass game.
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« Reply #346 on: July 11, 2013, 12:01:07 am »

You forgot combining the swords! If you have a game with a lot of collecting things you should let people combine them to make even better things.
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« Reply #347 on: July 11, 2013, 12:01:58 am »

As an alternative to stats, abstract everything. Damage is based on how well the sword would cut if you really swung it, then you throw in its special properties.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what you meant.
Run some complicated formulas to determine what swinging a sword with the amount of force the character is swinging it with at the angle the character is swinging it would do to a target approximating the enemy faced moving as the enemy is. You now know what the stroke would do in real life. Now just inflict the real injury on the enemy. This is incredibly complicated, but there are no stats necessary and the game is as realistic as possible.

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« Reply #348 on: July 11, 2013, 12:03:50 am »

As an alternative to stats, abstract everything. Damage is based on how well the sword would cut if you really swung it, then you throw in its special properties.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what you meant.
Run some complicated formulas to determine what swinging a sword with the amount of force the character is swinging it with at the angle the character is swinging it would do to a target approximating the enemy faced moving as the enemy is. You now know what the stroke would do in real life. Now just inflict the real injury on the enemy. This is incredibly complicated, but there are no stats necessary and the game is as realistic as possible.
I never said I wanted it to be realistic, I just want it to be arbitrary and fun! That just sounds overly complex and hard, and not fun. :C
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« Reply #349 on: July 11, 2013, 12:04:37 am »

You forgot combining the swords! If you have a game with a lot of collecting things you should let people combine them to make even better things.
Awesome. *scribble scribble* Now what about the base stat system? Thats the most important part. I can tack all that junk on afterward.
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« Reply #350 on: July 11, 2013, 12:05:41 am »

What difficulties are you actually having with the stat system? I could whip you up a system for strategic silly sword combat pretty easily, but I'd need to know the context (how quick battles should be, whether you want to use a tile-like grid/some other kind of map or merely descriptions, that kind of thing).
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« Reply #351 on: July 11, 2013, 12:07:38 am »

As an alternative to stats, abstract everything. Damage is based on how well the sword would cut if you really swung it, then you throw in its special properties.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what you meant.
Run some complicated formulas to determine what swinging a sword with the amount of force the character is swinging it with at the angle the character is swinging it would do to a target approximating the enemy faced moving as the enemy is. You now know what the stroke would do in real life. Now just inflict the real injury on the enemy. This is incredibly complicated, but there are no stats necessary and the game is as realistic as possible.
I never said I wanted it to be realistic, I just want it to be arbitrary and fun! That just sounds overly complex and hard, and not fun. :C
It's what I'm using for my realism RPG experience. It's rather inappropriate, but it's something to keep in mind if you really want to avoid arbitrary systems.

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« Reply #352 on: July 11, 2013, 12:07:48 am »

Let's start with the mook fighting bit to start on the swords strength. The strength should be sharpness times weight minus mook armor.
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« Reply #353 on: July 11, 2013, 12:14:14 am »

What difficulties are you actually having with the stat system? I could whip you up a system for strategic silly sword combat pretty easily, but I'd need to know the context (how quick battles should be, whether you want to use a tile-like grid/some other kind of map or merely descriptions, that kind of thing).
I just never used stats much, so id esti inexperienced and not good at imagining them on my own. I've used tons of different systems before though while experimenting, so understanding whatever you can come up with won't be a problem.

No grid or map. Group battles (12 or more foes, I'm thinking) would be 3-5 turns if you were ready for it, and a tough boss fight could be 7~ turns easily.
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« Reply #354 on: July 11, 2013, 12:15:40 am »

No grid or map. Group battles (12 or more foes, I'm thinking) would be 3-5 turns if you were ready for it, and a tough boss fight could be 7~ turns easily.

Hmm. That's a tough combination (many foes, strategic combat, no map), but only because it's one I haven't done before. I'll look into it.
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« Reply #355 on: July 11, 2013, 12:18:32 am »

No grid or map. Group battles (12 or more foes, I'm thinking) would be 3-5 turns if you were ready for it, and a tough boss fight could be 7~ turns easily.

Hmm. That's a tough combination (many foes, strategic combat, no map), but only because it's one I haven't done before. I'll look into it.
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« Reply #356 on: July 11, 2013, 01:25:18 am »

Alright, I'm going with a sort of freeform research system, but I've encountered a problem. How do i make a good map? If it's hexes then ordering units will be hard, and If it's MSpaint then it's the same problem.
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« Reply #357 on: July 11, 2013, 01:29:04 am »

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« Reply #358 on: July 11, 2013, 02:44:46 am »

Alright, I'm going with a sort of freeform research system, but I've encountered a problem. How do i make a good map? If it's hexes then ordering units will be hard, and If it's MSpaint then it's the same problem.
Maptool is free. Grids are the way to go.
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« Reply #359 on: July 11, 2013, 04:11:08 am »

ASCIIDraw is chill and dependable. It's rectangles all the way.
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