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[Fniff]

Sorry, I've just had a bad history with freeformers and I tend to get a little aggrevated when they're mentioned. Anyway, I just don't believe the risks outweigh the possible benefits, as the benefits could be accomplished with a regular RP.

[Bdthemag]

So we should encourage poor quality games then, just so we don't hurt anyone's feelings? I'm not saying that we have AMAZING GAMES, THAT ARE TOP QUALITY on our part, but why encourage something that will fail three pages in? I'm not saying this to be a dick, I'm saying this because it will happen. If it doesn't happen, I'll renounce my ways on the forum publicly and stop acting like a dick forever.

[Rolepgeek]

What's a regular RP defined as, exactly?

It's not encouraging poor game quality. It's encouraging a greater variety of games. If you don't want to risk your emotions, don't play. People who do are willing to take the risks involved.

[Fniff]

Regular RP is an RP that uses a system of rules to make sure playing it is fair and balanced, with no place for godmoders to exist.

[Furtuka]

...y'know. Now I'm really hoping his game succeeds. Seeing this occur every time someone brings up freeform games is getting to be annoying *sigh*

[Nerjin]

I've found that one on one free-form RPs generally work out rather well. Though that is a different genre entirely from what I'm given to understand.

...y'know. Now I'm really hoping his game succeeds. Seeing this occur every time someone brings up freeform games is getting to be annoying *sigh*

Past performances influence current discussion. Since they tend to be awful things that aren't fun to deal with people treat them as such.

[monk12]

So we should encourage poor quality games then, just so we don't hurt anyone's feelings? I'm not saying that we have AMAZING GAMES, THAT ARE TOP QUALITY on our part, but why encourage something that will fail three pages in? I'm not saying this to be a dick, I'm saying this because it will happen. If it doesn't happen, I'll renounce my ways on the forum publicly and stop acting like a dick forever.

I'm not saying we should encourage each and every little thing that comes by, but there's no need for excessive discouragement, with emphasis on excessive. He's been warned of the risks, and the worst that happens is that the game goes poorly and he learns something from his admitted experiment.

Mostly what I was objecting to was the attitude of "this will suck forever and always" as opposed to "this is what went wrong in past games, so you know what to look for, and this is how I'd go about avoiding it." Rolepgeek was doing the latter, other posters the former. I'd rather this thread was used for constructive criticism.

Or in short, I felt that things were a bit unfriendly for the last page or so. Maybe it's just me. I'll just go back to dating pigeons now.

FAKEEDIT: Oh hai several ninjas.

[kj1225]

There's a song that would go along with the dating pigeons comment but I am not willing to post it.

[Fniff]

I think the reason for the hostility is that when freeformers fail, they either fail depressingly or spectacularly, since the optimal freeformer is techincally never meant to end. Either way, they leave a bad taste when they stop working.

[Furtuka]

I've found that one on one free-form RPs generally work out rather well. Though that is a different genre entirely from what I'm given to understand.

...y'know. Now I'm really hoping his game succeeds. Seeing this occur every time someone brings up freeform games is getting to be annoying *sigh*

Past performances influence current discussion. Since they tend to be awful things that aren't fun to deal with people treat them as such.

Speaking as someone who was part of the freeform craze alongside them back when it occurred, while I agree that many of their criticisms are valid, I don't see a good reason for beating on this horse so excessively.

[Fniff]

As I said, it tends to leave a bad taste in the mouths of those who are specifically disappointed when it goes wrong.

[Furtuka]

Sorry about this Fniff, but I'm not really seeing that as being a good excuse. I guess I just don't really comprehend how it can be that mentally inconveniencing.

[Rolepgeek]

I think the reason for the hostility is that when freeformers fail, they either fail depressingly or spectacularly, since the optimal freeformer is techincally never meant to end. Either way, they leave a bad taste when they stop working.

Then that's part of the problem, that attitude. Every game ends. Every single one, no matter which, ends eventually. It could go for years, and be amazing, but eventually, that too will end, often in a satisfying, if bittersweet, conclusion. Every game ends, you have to expect it, accept it, and be ready for it.

[freeformschooler]

Sorry about this Fniff, but I'm not really seeing that as being a good excuse. I guess I just don't really comprehend how it can be that mentally inconveniencing.

It's more about leading people to invest their time and minds to a story that slowly builds up over time and then pulling the rug out from under them and destroying what they created. Even if it sucked. A game ending with a good conclusion from all the players is not like that.

[Fniff]

I think the reason for the hostility is that when freeformers fail, they either fail depressingly or spectacularly, since the optimal freeformer is techincally never meant to end. Either way, they leave a bad taste when they stop working.

Then that's part of the problem, that attitude. Every game ends. Every single one, no matter which, ends eventually. It could go for years, and be amazing, but eventually, that too will end, often in a satisfying, if bittersweet, conclusion. Every game ends, you have to expect it, accept it, and be ready for it.

Freeform roleplays on this site don't end bittersweetly, or satisifyingly. They just die because everyone gave up.

Though I'm beginning to think we should make a new topic that's called "Freeform RPs suck: discuss" at this point...