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[Corai]

-WARNING: THIS MAY OR MAY NOT COME OFF AS A BASIC CORAI KOBOLD KOBOLD KOBOLDING-




I am not gonna try to kobold kobold kobold, but


Kobolds live in caves.


They are.....suppose to be master thieves.


Are small, small enough to escape attackers.


I suggest kobolds be buffed up and turned into your "early fort" ambushers. Mainly through having insanely low requirements to ambush, and somewhat reasonable requirements to siege, give them a reaction to get copper, gold, and silver weapons. Give them a natural "Adequate Observer" and "Adequate Dodger" to further increase there danger. But this is a suggestion, your call. And buffing goblins/orcs/whatever other civs you will add into late-game siegers, again, your call.



And I vote you remove all above-ground animals, since this is a huge cavern were are in.

[Drago55577]

oh, oh! Maybe a creature that moves incredibly slow (but attack isnt slow) it would be an eldrich tree that feeds on blood. blood sucking vines and stuff.

[jackbod]

Pot monster
Small early fortress threat that drops pot on death
Cave octopus
more aggresive version of typical octopus

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Rock Lobster

[Jeoshua]

Rock Lobster

!!ROCK LOBSTER!!

[axeman157]

I'm taking interest to your project, so I made this very alpha/layout for a insect called a Cave Roach. Needs a good bit of work.

Code: [Select]

cave_roach_creature

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:CAVE_ROACH]
[DESCRIPTION:A larger version of the common roach. Often used as war mounts]
[NAME:cave roach:cave roaches:cave roach]
[CASTE_NAME:cave roach:cave roaches:cave roach]
[CREATURE_TILE:'O'][COLOR:6:0:0]
[NATURAL][PET]
[PETVALUE:350]
[TRAINABLE][TRAINABLE_WAR][
[POPULATION_NUMBER:250:500]
[TRIGGERABLE_GROUP:5:50]
[SPEED:2900]
[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[PREFSTRING:disturbing bug intelligence]
[FLIER]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[NO_SLEEP]
[HOMEOTHERM:10071]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[MUNDANE]
[NOBONES]
[BODY:INSECT:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH:2WINGS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_MATERIALS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_TISSUES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXOSKELETON_TISSUE_LAYERS:CHITIN:FAT:MUSCLE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:ICHOR:ICHOR_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:ICHOR:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:4000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:168:17500]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:70000]
[MAXAGE:6:8]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:CHITIN]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BROWN:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:chitin:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]


[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I just relised Evil biomes that rain blood, make me think that part of the cavern is not a good place to be. Maybe some sort of deadly spawn or hoard of creatures that roam in EVIL areas

[axeman157]

-WARNING: THIS MAY OR MAY NOT COME OFF AS A BASIC CORAI KOBOLD KOBOLD KOBOLDING-

I am not gonna try to kobold kobold kobold, but

Kobolds live in caves.

They are.....suppose to be master thieves.

Are small, small enough to escape attackers.

I suggest kobolds be buffed up and turned into your "early fort" ambushers. Mainly through having insanely low requirements to ambush, and somewhat reasonable requirements to siege, give them a reaction to get copper, gold, and silver weapons. Give them a natural "Adequate Observer" and "Adequate Dodger" to further increase there danger. But this is a suggestion, your call. And buffing goblins/orcs/whatever other civs you will add into late-game siegers, again, your call.

And I vote you remove all above-ground animals, since this is a huge cavern were are in.

I like this idea too, how about you also say the "sun" is some type of really illuminating mold since you can't mod the sun out?

[wqaopl]

how about a giant firefly/blood suking bat thingy that flys at thet top of the cavern waiting for a fort full of walking blood sacks to swoop on and feed.

RE: not good with creature tags but i had a go at somthing to light up a cave. no idea how to add atack trigers or stuff like that but tested in the arena and got coverd in digestive flooid.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[CREATURE:BLOODBEE]
   [DESCRIPTION:a big bee inseact that uses methain to float and has a stinger that ingects victims with digestive flooids.]
   [NAME:blood bee:blood bees:blood bee]
   [CREATURE_TILE:250][COLOR:6:0:1]
   [NATURAL]
   [BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:50:100]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:20:60]
   [SMALL_REMAINS]
   [SPEED:980]
   [PREFSTRING:blood red glow]
   [DIURNAL]
   [FLIER]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [NO_SLEEP]
   [LIGHT_GEN]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10071]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [MUNDANE]
   [NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [UBIQUITOUS]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:DIGESTEN_FLOIDS:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen digestive flooid]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen digestive flooid]
      [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:digestive flooid]
      [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:digestive flooid]
      [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling digestive flooid]
      [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling digestive flooid]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [ENTERS_BLOOD]
      [SYNDROME]
         [SYN_NAME:blood bee ingection ]
         [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
         [SYN_IMMUNE_CREATURE:BLOODBEE:ALL]
         [SYN_INJECTED]
         [SYN_CONTACT]
         [CE_PAIN:SEV:50:PROB:90:RESISTABLE:LOCALIZED:MUSCULAR_ONLY:START:50:PEAK:500:END:3500]
         [CE_SWELLING:SEV:75:PROB:70:RESISTABLE:LOCALIZED:MUSCULAR_ONLY:START:50:PEAK:500:END:3500]
         [CE_NECROSIS:SEV:150:PROB:100:RESISTABLE:LOCALIZED:MUSCULAR_ONLY:START:130:PEAK:3000:END:3500]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
   [TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [HAS_NERVES]
   [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:DIGESTEN_FLOIDS:LIQUID]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
   [GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
   [GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
   [PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:4000]
   [MAXAGE:18:32]
   [NOBONES]
   [TRAPAVOID]

   [BODY:INSECT:2EYES:HEART:TAIL:TAIL_STINGER:BRAIN:MOUTH:2WINGS]
   [BODYGLOSS:INSECT_UPPERBODY:INSECT_LOWERBODY]
   [FLIER]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_MATERIALS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_TISSUES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXOSKELETON_TISSUE_LAYERS:CHITIN:FAT:MUSCLE:DIGESTEN_FLOIDS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]

   [ATTACK:STING:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:STINGER]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:inject:injects]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:5]
      [ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
      [SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:DIGESTEN_FLOIDS:LIQUID:100:100]

   [CASTE:BLOOD_HUNTER]
      [MALE]
      [CASTE_NAME:blood bee hunter:blood bee hunters:blood bee hunter]
      [POP_RATIO:10000]
   [CASTE:BLOOD_SCOUT]
      [MALE]
      [CASTE_NAME:blood bee:blood bees:blood bee]
      [BODY_SIZE:0:0:10000]
      [POP_RATIO:5]
   [CASTE:QUEEN]
      [FEMALE]
      [CASTE_NAME:blood bee queen:blood bee queens:blood bee queen]
      [BODY_SIZE:0:0:80000]
      [POP_RATIO:1]
   [SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:CHITIN]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:RED:1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:blood soaked chitin:SINGULAR]
      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]

[Moonlit_Knight]

I like these ideas. 

I want to add a certain mod into this that allows one to create bone 'bars'.  This way other civs, specifically primitive ones like 'bolds and certain animal men, use bone weapons and armor.  The 'bolds can be made a little more dangerous by letting them use wood armor and weapons like vanilla elves or, preferably, bone equivalents, if onl for aesthetic purposes.  I like the cave roach, but unfortunately, the whole tissue layering thing is new to me as a modder.

I'm better at plants, items, and reactions.

[khearn]

oh, oh! Maybe a creature that moves incredibly slow (but attack isnt slow) it would be an eldrich tree that feeds on blood. blood sucking vines and stuff.

Unfortunately, movement and attack speed are currently tied together. Toady has said he plans to separate them at some point, possibly the army arc. But it doesn't sound like it will happen soon.

[King Mir]

oh, oh! Maybe a creature that moves incredibly slow (but attack isnt slow) it would be an eldrich tree that feeds on blood. blood sucking vines and stuff.

Unfortunately, movement and attack speed are currently tied together. Toady has said he plans to separate them at some point, possibly the army arc. But it doesn't sound like it will happen soon.

It's planned for Release 7 of the caravan arc.

As for this mod:

Make some plants that have high constant temperatures, so they set things on fire. Put them in desert biomes. Infest deserts with fire based creatures.

[wqaopl]

I like these ideas. 

I want to add a certain mod into this that allows one to create bone 'bars'.  This way other civs, specifically primitive ones like 'bolds and certain animal men, use bone weapons and armor.  The 'bolds can be made a little more dangerous by letting them use wood armor and weapons like vanilla elves or, preferably, bone equivalents, if onl for aesthetic purposes.  I like the cave roach, but unfortunately, the whole tissue layering thing is new to me as a modder.

I'm better at plants, items, and reactions.

i like the hole bone thing and metereals arent to complicated so a bone bar could be like:

[INORGANIC:PREST_BONE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BONE_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL:prest bone]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:0:7:0][TILE:241]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:1410]
   [IS_STONE]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
   [BLOCK_NAME:bone block:bone blocks]

and the test reaction i created to make it: (in no good at reactions)

[REACTION:PRESS_BONE]
   [NAME:creat prest bone]
   [BUILDING:BONE_PRESS:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:PREST_BONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [SKILL:SOAP_MAKING]

and to get better bone wepons add clay for a harder and more resileant form:

[INORGANIC:HARDEND_BONE]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BONE_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL:hard bone]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:7:7:1][TILE:241]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:2403] cant find the proper data on bone china so this is not going to be as good as it should be
   [IS_METAL]
   [ITEMS_WEAPON][ITEMS_WEAPON_RANGED][ITEMS_AMMO][ITEMS_ARMOR]
   [ITEMS_METAL]
   [ITEMS_SCALED]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:7]

i only tested it quikly but i had fun bulding a bone wall.

[Pokon]

You know whatwould be really amazing? If you could somehow start at the caverns and work your way up. That's how I understand this mod anyway, a game set at the caverns.

This mod is meant to emulate it.  Ergo, it makes the world look and behave like you are in the caverns.

Or... it could be a world turned inside-out!  With all the cavern creatures on the surface and surface creatures in the caverns, so you dig your way down to reach the surfac... no on second thought, that's not a good idea at all.

Yeah, and eventualy you have to face the mutent decendants of those who caused the world to be like that.......

Oh god, Gurran Lagen mod. Sweet mercy, may Armok have mercy the day I die.

[Meph]

I completely support this idea, I love the thought behind it. Remodelling the surface to appear to be a cavern layer. Great idea.

Anything I can help with, just leave me a PM, I will certainly answer, even if it might take a while. I have done extensive wildlife/plant modding, changing the entire look of the caverns in my mod, if you want to borrow/check the raws for ideas, go for it.