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1: NC

2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[SquatchHammer]

I hate the piece meal approach of making the battle islands with continent locking.

Um, unless you dont know what piecemeal means but I just said that. I hate the approach of it. If they really want to start fixing it right away without introducing battle islands would be kill 4th factioning.

[Duuvian]

I agree, 4th factioning makes the game less enjoyable. They really should have only allowed one realm per server but I guess that would make server merges harder. Both my TR and VS characters have merged onto my NC's Mattherson in two separate merges.

As for being piecemeal people would complain even more if it wasn't and they had to wait years for anything to change.

[Sordid]

As for being piecemeal people would complain even more if it wasn't and they had to wait years for anything to change.

True, but ideally the game should not have been released in an unfinished state that made this piecemeal approach to updates a necessity in the first place. I still don't understand why they didn't simply keep it in beta. Nobody would complain about piecemeal updates if the game was still in beta because beta is goddamn beta. That's what it's for. It's still in beta as far as the actual development process goes, with features being added and removed and completely overhauled. I don't understand why SOE was in such a rush to push it out the door. The only thing that accomplished was that it made people go, "What the fuck is this shit? This game's released, it's supposed to be finished! Why is half of it not working right and the other half not implemented at all yet?"

[Ozyton]

The gauss S rifle is good too, but I don't find the smoke launcher as useful now that everyone and their dog has IRNV, plus it has just slightly less rate of fire which further emphasizes it not being great in close quarters. Smoke is still good against MAXes though, I remember the other day people were saying that NC was abusing smoke because VS loves to pull tons of maxes with lobster claw canons (whatever their AI weapons are called) and roffleskate all over people in bases. Hard to do that when they can't see anything =p

Now we just need the flash suppressor to reduce/remove tracers, or another ammo type that doesn't deal more damage but instead reduces/removes tracers. In reality there are things called subdued tracers, which only fully ignite after travelling a certain distance so they're less likely to give your position away.

I still haven't made a TR or VS character...

[Toaster]

I agree, 4th factioning makes the game less enjoyable. They really should have only allowed one realm per server but I guess that would make server merges harder. Both my TR and VS characters have merged onto my NC's Mattherson in two separate merges.

As for being piecemeal people would complain even more if it wasn't and they had to wait years for anything to change.

A ten minute lockout would fix all the problems, but apparently that's too much effort.

[NullForceOmega]

I'm going to be honest here Toaster, I really don't see how a ten minute lockout would even be useful, most of the fourth-factioning problem lies in massive numbers of players switching from faction a and seizing all (or most territory) to faction b and repeating to faction c and repeating then back to faction a.  Even several nasty zergs still take far more than ten minutes to flip a continent.

[Toaster]

Because most of the people would get bored waiting for that timer.  Granted, it might make people just log out instead, but that points to a game design flaw, not fourth factioning. 

It has the bonus advantage of making switching quickly to the other faction to spy much less worthwhile.

[zombat]

Baron also has the highest MV of any shotgun, making it with slugs pretty much a ghetto battle rifle for the LA.

[SquatchHammer]

Because most of the people would get bored waiting for that timer.  Granted, it might make people just log out instead, but that points to a game design flaw, not fourth factioning. 

It has the bonus advantage of making switching quickly to the other faction to spy much less worthwhile.

You forgot 3rd party mic systems.... So yah NO 4th faction ever.

[Skyrunner]

How do you use a grenade launcher?

[Ozyton]

Hit the 1 key (by default)

[Skyrunner]

But how do you get one?

[Ozyton]

I think it's only on a few guns, the S versions of the default carbine and assault rifle for your faction.

[Jim Groovester]

It's an unlockable rail attachment for the S variant guns, which are TRAC-5 S, T1S Cycler, Gauss Compact S, Gauss Rifle S, Solstice SF, and Equinox VE2.

I'm going to be honest here Toaster, I really don't see how a ten minute lockout would even be useful, most of the fourth-factioning problem lies in massive numbers of players switching from faction a and seizing all (or most territory) to faction b and repeating to faction c and repeating then back to faction a.  Even several nasty zergs still take far more than ten minutes to flip a continent.

The fourth faction is a myth. Supposedly.

If you don't look at the post it says 1% of players switch characters on the same account.

There isn't a set of players who spend all day jumping from faction to faction to zerg across continents. The zerging across continents happens anyway, without them.

I wonder what the other faction's 167 damage rifles (Corvus and SABR) are like. I notice only NC have 200 damage rifles.

The SABR is good but it's hard to click fast enough to fire at 600 rpm. I find it kind of difficult sometimes to accurately track targets while I'm trying to spam the left mouse button as fast as possible. When I succeed the gun is beastly.

[Rex_Nex]

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