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[zombat]

Only on other cloakers and at close range, any other class will be left with a slither of health

[Ozyton]

I don't know about you guys but I've always had flashlights on my sidearms, just to have them. I guess my game is just darker than everyone else's or I don't gamma crank like everybody else. I haven't gotten much actual use out of it though, but it seemed to make sense.

if they made it so that shining flashlight son people also automatically revealed their position as if called out with "q" then it would be even more useful.

[Toaster]

Makes you wonder what will change with this when implants come out- will there be a darklight one at all or will both systems be in place?

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Possibly toggleable night vision but if someone passes a light over you you're blinded like a flashbang. Makes everyone want nightvision but also everyone want lights.

[Wardo]

So now everybody can spam crossbow recon darts? Cloak is entirely cosmetic then.

Methods to detect a cloaked infiltrator: NV sight, eyesight, recon darts, crossbow recon darts, any vehicle radar, darklight flashlight.

What amazing advantage does the cloak provide for it to have so many counters?

[Metalax]

Tank mines are now smaller
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Explosives will now blow up deployables and other explosives

Suicide sundy runs are back!

They never left, although it will make it a little easier than needing to stay alive long enough to shoot the mines to detonate them.

Going to have to wait to see how much of a change the additional ways of detecting cloaked infils make, I expect most effect in small fights and biolabs/areas with limited paths.

Stalker cloak will be interesting for crossing the coverless areas during infantry pushes between bases or to reach sniper locations to take them out.

[Jim Groovester]

So now everybody can spam crossbow recon darts?

I doubt many people are going to use them. They do basically no damage. It took ten or eleven bolts to kill a target dummy in VR. You'd have higher DPS spamming V-6.

You also have to give up your sidearm to use them. I hope for whoever uses them that they don't run out of ammo in the middle of shooting the enemies they knew were coming.

[Toaster]

MAG CUTTER ALL DAY ERRY DAY

[TolyK]

So now everybody can spam crossbow recon darts?

I doubt many people are going to use them. They do basically no damage. It took ten or eleven bolts to kill a target dummy in VR. You'd have higher DPS spamming V-6.

You also have to give up your sidearm to use them. I hope for whoever uses them that they don't run out of ammo in the middle of shooting the enemies they knew were coming.

You obviously never played with the Beamer.

[Jim Groovester]

What with VS reload speeds, I bet you've never played with it either.

[zombat]

Carv-s/T-16 with extended mag anyone?

[Jim Groovester]

It's better on CARV-S since it has SPA and shoots faster. You probably won't get many chances to shoot more than 100 rounds though. That loadout only really comes into its own if you're mowing down lots of zerglings.

Advanced Foregrip on Rhino is too good; I wouldn't use the gun without it.

[Siquo]

What with VS reload speeds, I bet you've never played with it either.

Your Oh Snap is invisible . I still have 99 kills with it, though, and I'm only allowed to get a new sidearm once I auraxium it.

[TolyK]

What with VS reload speeds, I bet you've never played with it either.

I've tried, but it is nearly impossible to keep on target while spam-clicking, so yeah. I much prefer the Mag-Shot or the Repeater in terms of standard pistols.

[Sonlirain]

So now everybody can spam crossbow recon darts? Cloak is entirely cosmetic then.

Methods to detect a cloaked infiltrator: NV sight, eyesight, recon darts, crossbow recon darts, any vehicle radar, darklight flashlight.

What amazing advantage does the cloak provide for it to have so many counters?

NV Sight stopped showing infiltrators ages ago. In fact you can't spot them with the NV sight at all now.
They buffed infiltrators cloak and made it even harder to spot while not sprinting.
Recon daarts detecy you under cloak onnly when you move around i think.
Not sure about the vehicle radars.
Anyone using a darklight flashlight looking for you will likely use his sidearm.