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2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[Sonlirain]

So i've been getting close to 250 certs and decided to upgrade my weapons.

Now since shotguns are usable by most classes it's obviously going to be a shotty...

Now i was thinking about the haymaker (possibly adding slugs later) but its only shtick appears to be having 2 more rounds in the magazine and slower bullet velocity (don't think it's important for shotguns at all).

Question is... is that gun even worth it?

[TolyK]

Slug shotguns are really only good if you're sniping still targets (engies behind turrets, etc.) or if you have good FPS *and* you are good at leading. Extended mags for shotguns depend on what they are - I don't know about the haymaker (NC right?) but if it's an auto-shotty I'd go for it, if it's a semi-auto... I dunno.

[Sonlirain]

TR semi auto. That's why i was thinking about slugs since they might turn it into a rifle of sorts.

[TolyK]

I bought the VS semi-auto for 250, tried the slugs... eh, don't like it personally, but I have low FPS in firefights, so that could be part of the problem.

[DJ]

I have crappy FPS too (~15), and I find slug shotguns to be perfectly fine. Leading isn't that hard, you just have to give up on sniping and just spam 3-4 shots to have one that hits. It's still better than a carbine, because slugs hit like a freight train. What I'm actually struggling with is the huge bullet drop, you need to be a lot better at judging distance with a slug shotgun than with a carbine.

[Sonlirain]

So... i bought the shotgun and rushed into battle as a LA.
NC guys were totally clueless as the shotty moved them down.
Ended up with 10 certs in like... 15 minutes.

[TolyK]

I have crappy FPS too (~15), and I find slug shotguns to be perfectly fine. Leading isn't that hard, you just have to give up on sniping and just spam 3-4 shots to have one that hits. It's still better than a carbine, because slugs hit like a freight train. What I'm actually struggling with is the huge bullet drop, you need to be a lot better at judging distance with a slug shotgun than with a carbine.

This is where the Vanu help - no bullet drop for me.
No, 15 FPS is good for me. I mean about 5 FPS. ;(

[Graknorke]

I only get lag in battles, especially when I have only a short window of opportunity to get an advantage. It's a conspiracy I tell you.
And shortly after joining too, with the menus and stuff not showing up for a few minutes and things not rendering, but I think that's meant to happen.

[Toaster]

And shortly after joining too, with the menus and stuff not showing up for a few minutes and things not rendering, but I think that's meant to happen.

I'm pretty sure that's everyone.

[palsch]

Yeah, that's normal loading time I think.

My worst lag is when changing views in large battles (switching into/out of ADS or similar), especially when I've just joined in a new zone and there are things loading. The worst worst is when I run the Phoenix and it lags out for a full second or so before I get control of the missile.



Oh, and GU10 up today, hopefully. Not a huge patch this time but some nice bits and bobs.

[DJ]

I don't get lag on loading new things, I freeze

[Satarus]

Vehicle Updates
Vehicle Projectiles Now Originate from the Camera
This should makes shots more reliably line up with the crosshair and reduce issues when the muzzle of the weapon is offset from the camera by a large amount.
AMS Sunderer Deployment Area Change
The anti deploy radius for AMS Sunderers has been reduced to 130 meters, so Sunderers are able to deploy more closely to each other than before.
Flash and Harasser Airborne Control
Steer left and steer right will now cause the Flash and Harasser to roll slightly when airborne.

YES!  YES!

[miauw62]

YEEESSSS
WE CAN DO BARREL ROLLS WITH FLASHES NOW
THIS IS THE BEST UPDATE.

[da_nang]

And if I'm interpreting it correctly, they're only nerfing the jerk of the ZOE. Top acceleration and top speed are still the same.
So happy, hopefully.

[Toaster]

The worst worst is when I run the Phoenix and it lags out for a full second or so before I get control of the missile.

*Fires Phoenix*
*Watches it arc downward into the ground*
*Sad trombone*