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1: NC

2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[Toaster]

Scrapper. Basilisk is a waste on the Flash- get the Fury.  Kobalt is good too if you want a cheap anti-infantry solution.

[TolyK]

Derp, I meant Kobalt, the 100 cert one.

[Toaster]

Get the Kobalt, then.  Do note that it's much better at long range than you would think it would be- it turns you into a mobile turret.  To be an in-your-face infantry terror, you need the Fury.  Kobalt is good damage and very surprisingly accurate with its tiny cone.

Scrapper is certainly my choice of chassis, but if you want to kill with it, you sort of need the weapon.



I say sort of, because you can still run dudes over with it.  You don't even have to uncloak to do that!

[TolyK]

Yeah, already got about 7 TR's doing that XD

[Toaster]

Two FYIs, though:

1.  There is a Fury nerf in place on the test server.  There's no information on if/when that will make it to live, though.
2.  The Renegade is terrible.

[PrimusRibbus]

Get the Kobalt, then.  Do note that it's much better at long range than you would think it would be- it turns you into a mobile turret.  To be an in-your-face infantry terror, you need the Fury.  Kobalt is good damage and very surprisingly accurate with its tiny cone.

Scrapper is certainly my choice of chassis, but if you want to kill with it, you sort of need the weapon.



I say sort of, because you can still run dudes over with it.  You don't even have to uncloak to do that!

Unless your outfit does ops that call for a Basilisk (I have a ton of Prowler/Sundy kills on my Basilisk Flash due to ops), I'd argue that it's probably better to skip a gun for the Flash altogether.

The high TTK of the Kobalt and the bounciness of the Flash in general means that any decent infantry player can win against a Kobalt Flash 1on1. You would need to stand still to be competitive with the Kobalt, and that destroys the whole advantage of being on a Flash. The Fury is great but it has a nerf coming, so it's not worth buying until we see the final tweaks.

[darkrider2]

My SMG has a flashlight, all your arguments are invalid.

Its OP as all hell.

[Toaster]

I got the Fury and Kobalt long ago in a bundle sale.

The Kobalt can also kill from 100m, and easily outrange pretty much everything but the more accurate LMGs and the long rifles.  If you're close enough to be threatened, back up.  I will agree that it's better for open field scenarios, and is thus good in places like northern Indar and Esamir.  You do run the risk of getting sniped, of course.


On that note, after I picked up a SMG I actually play Infil now (I hate sniping).  It's amazing how easy it is to blink in and out of cloak and pick people off.

[TolyK]

I got the Fury and Kobalt long ago in a bundle sale.

The Kobalt can also kill from 100m, and easily outrange pretty much everything but the more accurate LMGs and the long rifles.  If you're close enough to be threatened, back up.  I will agree that it's better for open field scenarios, and is thus good in places like northern Indar and Esamir.  You do run the risk of getting sniped, of course.

Never got sniped while on the flash. Only deaths while actually on the flash are tank mines, and tank shells right to the face...

On that note, after I picked up a SMG I actually play Infil now (I hate sniping).  It's amazing how easy it is to blink in and out of cloak and pick people off.

Exactly. That was the best 1k certs I've invested the whole game. I still haven't gotten up to my semi-auto (default) sniper kills, though, but I'm closing in a lot faster.

Part of why I'm thinking I actually want Scrapper first is because I like to do drive-by mining trips with my friend (it still works ). I've played around with Scrapper 3 in the VR, but it just doesn't seem to really improve all that much for 3 ranks. Is it most evident at rank 1?

[Darkening Kaos]

Looks like I'll be saving up for the Raven.

[Jim Groovester]

My SMG has a flashlight, all your arguments are invalid.

Its OP as all hell.

So is it capable of blinding people like the tac light attachment in Battlefield 3, or is it completely useless?

[da_nang]

Looking at the GU08 notes, it seems VS gets screwed. Again. Aesthetics notwithstanding, the Vortex appear to be the worst of the three new AV MAX weapons.

[kaian-a-coel]

The day the VS MAX gets on par with the other two, I'm moving to hell. First because the complaints of the eternally damned would be less unnerving than the whining of the TR and NC (not all of them, no offence.), and second because by then hell would be cold enough to be a good vacation.

[Darkening Kaos]

Looking at the GU08 notes, it seems VS gets screwed. Again. Aesthetics notwithstanding, the Vortex appear to be the worst of the three new AV MAX weapons.

Not enough purple spandex on it for you?  Hmmm?

[kaian-a-coel]

looking at it, these weapons appear to be pretty unbalanced.
The VS weapon is basically the ESRL. And the ESRL sucks, because fully charged it is weaker than a basic RL, and charging takes AGES. And sometimes fail. I can accept the non-charged shot to deal next to no damage, but not a 3-sec charged shot to hit an INF in the head and not kill it.
The TR weapon is apparently some sort of Prowler turret, and the NC is the Engi's AC turret...

A guy did the maths:

NC: 23,520 damage per minute at all ranges
TR: 25,200 damage per minute at all ranges
VS: 15,300 damage per minute close, 9,180 damage per minute at 300m

Charge doesn't change the DPS.