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1: NC

2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[Toaster]

Remember that the Striker will be nerfed (along with all lock-on launchers) with the next update. That's a big investment to lose value.

This.  I'd suggest waiting and seeing how this update pans out.


Just keep playing a lot today and get enough certs for both!

[Kanil]

If you can't aim, or play infiltrator to preserve your K/D, or feel like waving your dick around, or just hate people in general, get a Striker.

Striker Summary
Advantages: Good at everything.
Disadvantages: ???

[Orb]

Unlike the normal lock ons, you can't dumb fire the striker. Not a big deal, but it's nice in close quarters situations.

[miauw62]

Striker Summary
Advantages: Good at everything.
Disadvantages:

This is quite a problem. I think we should nerf the NC to solve it.

[Sonlirain]

So i read the PS2 forum about the striker.

Apparently the rockets hit the ground when aircraft fly low enough with their nose pointing at the ground.
So yeah...

I'm upgrading the racer airframe on my mossie now... I'm going to turn it into a speed demon... hopefully it'l be able to outrun missiles  .
300 certs to go.

Ah and i read on the wiki that the primary lightening gun (viper 75) has shells that double up as flak shells (IE explode in the air) so they might be a poor mans alternative fot the skyguard...
Then again the gun elevation is pretty darn poor on it but i guess that's what you get if you want a universal weapon.

[palsch]

I don't know what wiki you are reading... It is possible to hit ESFs with Viper shells, but it's hard and they don't do much damage. I have managed at most two hits out of a full salvo and didn't get the kill. It's slightly easier to hit since they improved the drop on the shells, but the velocity and accuracy are still pretty naff.

[Sonlirain]

http://wiki.planetside-universe.com/ps/Lightning

"It is fitted with a cannon that is useful for both air and ground targets at 2 rounds per second which can explode like flak cannons."

[palsch]

Huh, just looked at the pages for the Viper itself on that and the other wiki and neither had anything about that. Also every discussion about AA Lightnings has either been about the Skyguard or how the AP turret should one-shot ESFs.

[bluejello]

a lot of the problem with balancing I believe is due to the players thinking in a lone wolf type approach to things, while the game ends up having a lot more than just one of each class at a base that is being taken over.  A bit hard to make a plane be able to survive flying and not blow up above a battlefield and still have the ability to kill it outside of large fights...

[Rez]

In my opinion, it's simple to balance, but would require a ton of work. Get a real flight model.  Retain current levels of HP and armor and increase missile and main gun damage.  Reduce flak inaccuracy and reduce missile lock time, because ESF are going to be going a lot faster.  Like, a lot.  The A10 "Warthog" has a cruising speed of 560 kph.  The F35 has a top speed of 2000 kph.  Even the Super Tucano, a regular turboprop aircraft has a cruising speed of 500 kph.  There you go.  ESF that is viable in both big battles and small ones, because killing them is dependent on spotting them coming in for their CAS run, which they have to do at an oblique angle or they'll crash.  They can no longer do the arbitrary flips and drops, because inertia and lift.  Air superiority matters more, because it is actually hard to spot incoming aircraft and uncontested air superiority allows the more damaging CAS free reign.   A2A combat suddenly isn't a mess of who can do the cutest flips and twirls in the air and is dependent on real maneuvering and air tactics. Real air combat maneuvers would be a lot more exciting than what's in game right now.  Mossies and reavers turn into dedicated energy fighters, while the scythe becomes the turn fighter.

A helicopter model could work, but I imagine most people would rather fly fast with a few armaments, than have Hinds or Havocs and need to hug the ground to evade AA.

I guess it's makes SOE squeamish to consider balancing by making things more realistic, but the root of the ESF problems is that they completely ignore physics.  The mossie and reaver can do bizarre maneuvers that would stall any legit jet aircraft and cause any helicopter to plummet from the sky and I don't think even the scythe has the agrav that would make such maneuvers possible.  That completely borks A2A combat and lets you do absurd things like use the lib's howitzer as an aa gun.  The same borked non-existent physics let ESF hover with their nose pointed directly down, allowing it to do what should be the domain of Liberators and heavy armor.  If they ever bring us gunship galaxies, what is the point of certing them if you can provide just as much fire support in 5 ESF?  1250 certs is easier than the 6000 or more they'll want for a special role galaxy.

TLDR: ESF are kings of all trades, due to PHYSICS.

I guess I should just go play ARMA3.

[Rakonas]

Well, they're all basically super helicopters aren't they? Not actual planes.

[Rez]

I guess that's supposed to be the idea.  Should super helicopters be able to fly upside down and hold position with the fuselage vertical to the ground?  I don't think so.

[Spaghetti7]

Yeah, I'm with Rez here. I'd prefer air combat a hell of a lot more if it were dependent on POSSIBLE maneuvers rather than who can do the fastest hovering-upside-down-360s.

[Vattic]

Same, but mostly because I'm not terrible with more realistic flight models than the current one. Can't seem to break the habit of treating them like real aircraft.

[Jim Groovester]

Alright, double XP weekend is over. Tally 'em up. How many certs did you get?

I got around 2700.