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1: NC

2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[Flying Dice]

You can also use 'B' to switch between fire modes and, with the engineer's mana turret, transform it into a level 3 ammo pack. This gives you the ability to carry mines without a real penalty.

One caveat to this though, it appears that the ammo pack you get from swapping from the turret is locked at the most basic level, any upgrades you have certed into for the ammo pack only function for the one you carry in your utility slot.

It is different from the basic ammo pack you have, though you can't upgrade it it will stay for 3 minutes which is longer than the basic one.

IIRC it's equivalent to the level 3 certed ammo pack.

[Leonon]

I wish I could mod Vanu's gun sounds to this.

[Glowcat]

Anyone with shotgun experience on VS and TR know which Vanu shotgun is the closest to a Nighthawk? I've been experimenting with drifterjets/shotgun on my TR and I'm loving it compared to normal jets. Suits my playstyle of rushing in and killing fast perfectly.

[tryrar]

heh, this is a good game...to bad my system slows to a crawl trying to run it.


Also, I just had a "what the fuck was I thinking?!" moment about installing this since in general I tend to be roflpwned in multiplayer FPSs

[miauw62]

This is indeed a good, albeit... unique, game.

IF IT WOULDN'T CRASH SO FUCKING MUCH. Seriously, it seems as if the devs aren't doing ANYTHING anymore.

[Jopax]

I find it especially funny when I shut the game down willingly (the whole log out button in the menu) that Windiws still gives me the stopped working properly message.

[Jelle]

Yeah in large conflicts my framerate just dies. Have crashed into the ground with my reaver on multiple occasions due to extreme lagg, also close combat is a nightmare when you see about 4 frames in a sudden close quarters firefight. How do I even lose a fight like that as a scattergun equiped max, such crippling lagg. 

Not getting any crashes though, ocassionally stuff won't render propperly and my screen begins flickering showing only the skybox, but that's it.

Another question about shotguns, NC ones not vanu, wich would you guys suggest? I'm sure I've tried all three but it's hard to compare given the trial cooldown.

[miauw62]

Glowcat is on ATM. I'll go trough the 10 minute process of restarting this game, i guess. Had quite a blast defending allatum. So many sundies.

[miauw62]

Alright, what the fuck?
I loaded the game, but instead of the character pick screen i got into the real "game". I had null certs, i was in name name, the screen was black. Basically, i had the HUD (even the esc menu with assorted stuff). Oh, and by the depot symbol i could tell that i was vanu. I took some screenies, i'll upload them someday.

Cert tables were empty, too. I got into my profile tab and when i clicked on stats it crashed.


E:

Oh great, and now it's being crashalicious. Can't start it up at all. I may have lost all my stuff (and station cash) due to that one fucking crash.

[Glowcat]

I get that same bug sometimes. It's just a failed load or something, you should be able to log back in fine. Well, you could if they didn't take down the servers just now.

Another question about shotguns, NC ones not vanu, wich would you guys suggest? I'm sure I've tried all three but it's hard to compare given the trial cooldown.

You can't go wrong with the Piston which is available across classes. If you want NC style however, the HA-exclusive Jackhammer is our symbol.

... Our symbol which I must be the sole user on our server. I've seen exactly two other people use Jackhammers and they were each on another server. Why? Probably because the only advantage a Jackhammer has over an automatic shotgun is reload speed, but at the cost of reduced damage. So yeah... I'd probably go Piston if I were you. EDIT: Wait, that saying doesn't work, because I use the Jackhammer all the time! What I should have said was: "I would go Piston if I weren't a masochist" :p

[miauw62]

I guess it's just the servers then. But shouldn't i be getting a G37 error instead of a G99 error?


E:
Oh, nevermind. Apparantly the URL states that it's unable to connect to the server, they just were too lazy to mention it in the error itself.

[Jelle]

... Our symbol which I must be the sole user on our server. I've seen exactly two other people use Jackhammers and they were each on another server. Why? Probably because the only advantage a Jackhammer has over an automatic shotgun is reload speed, but at the cost of reduced damage. So yeah... I'd probably go Piston if I were you. EDIT: Wait, that saying doesn't work, because I use the Jackhammer all the time! What I should have said was: "I would go Piston if I weren't a masochist" :p

But you are a masochist, else you'd be a pansy Vanu instead of NC. 

[Flying Dice]

Psh, you have to be a masochist to play Vanu. How else do you think we put up with the constant bitching about the Magrider? 

[Thexor]

Psh, you have to be a masochist to play Vanu. How else do you think we put up with the constant bitching about the Magrider? 

When someone bitches about the Magrider, don't sweat it. Just calm down, purchase a Magrider, and sidestrafe past all his rockets before rocketing up a cliff and obliterating the poor SOB. 


(As an NC, the one saving grace about the Magrider is how dangerous it must be for Vanu Engineers. If I'm standing beside a Vanguard, I'm very unlikely to be run over because the dopey driver decided to sidestrafe away from a rocket!)

[Glowcat]

It is easy to run over engineers, and there are some massive blind spots which mean Magriders tend to run over more Vanu than TR or NC.

I don't think they're overpowered either although they have a large advantage because the basic hover ability comes out of the box, even if it can see some minor improvements and then have even more mobility added with Magburners if one so desires them. Vanguards and Prowlers practically require their special utilities to keep up and those have to be certed up a few ranks to become effective.

Overall I'd say the factions strengths/weaknesses are:

Tanks are slight edge Vanu. I haven't played enough with them to really say yet though.
Infantry weapons are balanced between TR/Vanu, default NC weapons are lacking due to game favoring high ROF over damage
NC have an edge on pistols over TR, while Vanu have the worst of the lot
TR have a slight edge on air superiority with the best dog fighters in the game (due to the importance of speed), Reavers are far behind both
NC have the strongest MAX units although the TR aren't too far behind. Vanu's MAX can barely keep up even if it isn't absolutely horrid.

And all the HA exclusive weapons kinda suck right now, with the TR's minigun being the best of the lot.

EDIT: Oh right. And NC have the best music, no contest.