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Loud Whispers

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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 11:22:40 am »

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The cedar wooden log had one notable kill.

Say what? DF lists the kills of all objects?
Yup. My CMD from an old fort had a Dwarf kill from throwing a boulder at the head of one of his patients. Right after he patched the Dwarf up, and it was just leaving the hospital.

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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 11:42:59 am »

Just checked, no cedar log in the Legends  :( (maybe because the death was caused by the fall ).

And there was no tantrum. It was in the first month of the game, he had no relative and just a few friends that suffered with the loss, but after they get better admiring a fine door of something like that.

I wonder where does that log came from. If some dwarf was carrying a log, why would it drop it in the middle of the hauling? And if he dropped, it shouldn't had stopped at at the stairs in the same level, or it can roll down more levels?

Regarding the wheelbarrow, it has being a good prisoner and started the paperwork to obtain parole. I am still suspicious, as everybody knows how sneaky cedar logs can be. I plan to perform some !!SCIENCE!! and throw it in the river. If it floats, it is just a piece of wood. But if it sinks, I have consistent proof that it was a witch.
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 11:54:23 am »

Was it dropped from a minecart?
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 02:14:29 pm »

You gave it a wheel? Now it can move!
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 02:43:32 pm »

I'd say poltergeist, but it doesn't seem possible now that you said it's the first month.

Also, I simply fucking have to.


It looks like Urist McBroker...

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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 02:57:40 pm »

What we have here is a fine example of the dreaded combat log.

Actually, given that he ended up at the bottom of your stairway, I'd say he fell down the stairs. Maybe a dwarf higher up the stairs was hauling the log and got interrupted, so he dropped the log, which fell on the Fisherdwarf and knocked him down the stairs.

The question is: will an object dropped on the stairs by an interrupted hauler fall down the stairs? I'm not at all sure that would happen. Need to make a situation where a lot of hauling up/down stairs will be going on and then do something to interrupt it. The interruption is easy, just build a cage containing an animal or goblin near the stairs and link it to a lever so you can release the critter. Anyone on the stairs will see it and be interrupted.
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 03:42:31 pm »


Dwarves take their food fights seriously.

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Ah, I must reread those books.

Can an object with many notable kills be named? Ustidkost, the Cavernous Oar of Worth, an egg roast.
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 04:24:19 pm »

can stuff roll now? I remember someone asking and people said that if you dropped something on a ramp it will stay put on the ramp tile, is it different with stairs? someone said Indiana Jones style rolling boulders down a corridor?  :P 
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2012, 04:26:49 pm »

This is an engraving in willow of a cedar log and Urist McFishcleaner. The log is striking down Urist McFishcleaner. Urist McFishcleaner is being murdered by an inanimate object. This relates to the first recorded case of sentient logs in the year 158, twelve years before The First Great Log Uprising.
It menaces with spikes of cedar.
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2012, 04:53:50 pm »

Logs are the new carp.
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2012, 04:55:27 pm »

Yeah, it's normal. I've been trying to counter the curse of the falling logs by instead using ice for scaffolding during winter, and deconstructing it when it's warm again, during the summer. After all, that crap melts fast, right?
Wrong.
Fucking ice only melts after hitting everyone on the way down. So many broken bones.
So now I'm trying to use featherwood. Though I have no doubt the RNG will make these super-light logs break skulls as well.
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2012, 05:09:31 pm »

Ok, so some extra information about the event:

The body of Urist McBadLucky was found in the bottom of the stairway, together with the wooden log. Due to the force of the impact, I suspect he felt more than only 1 floor. In any case, at the moment the log hit McBadlucky, both were in an upper floor, so in the end the log rolled down the stairs.

I was reading the event log again, and I found (or better, I did not found) and interesting event:

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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2012, 05:16:58 pm »

I've seen stone fall traps generate more than one strike against goblins, even though logically it should only hit once.  Is it possible that falling items get multiple "hits" on their way by?  This was version .31.25.
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2012, 05:38:37 pm »

I have been diligently attempting to get anybody to drop anything down a set of stairs due to job cancellation, and just when I'd nearly given up I decide to go and build a constructed wooden wall above the set of stairs, then have it deconstructed. 

This seems to be what happened in the original post as I watched the log careen down the stairway, striking an unlucky fisherdwarf 3 times. 

I'm going to attempt this a few more times in slow motion to determine what's happening during impact.  When dwarves dropped the item on the stairs due to job cancellation, it just sets on the z-level that they dropped it on. 

Deconstruct a wooden construction above the staircase and you get this: http://imgur.com/a/k2n0Y

I'm also suprised nobody's gone here with this thread yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C7mNr5WMjA
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Re: Question: Fisherdwarf killed by a wooden log. Is this normal?
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2012, 05:58:33 pm »

Sentient pearwood ...

Well, luggage was a murderous fiend.
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