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Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« on: May 22, 2012, 04:44:03 pm »

So in my recent fort, I suddenly got a message among the lines of "The dead are walking, hide while you still can!" and thought, oh shit, a necromancer (I haven't encountered one so far). So I raise the drawing bridges and have a look at what's outside... Turns out it's a goblin corpse. So maybe the necromancer is entering the map in ambush mode?
I wait two seasons before I dare letting my very nimble military handle with the situation. Turns out, it was really only that one goblin corpse, which they easily dispatched into a "Goblin Corpse corpse".
Can anyone tell me what on earth was going on there? :D
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 04:47:27 pm »

Congratulations! You have survived your first undead siege.  You should expect the possibility that in the future far more sinister and numerous sieges will occur.  Either your embark site is within range of an undead tower, or your within range of a elven/dwarf/human town that has been occupied by the undead.
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 05:00:02 pm »

Well, I guess I'm gonna clap myself some applause then... Yay~~~

Actually, undead sieges sound amazing. Now I really wanna apply some magma to zombies.
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 05:06:22 pm »

Town is more likely. The necro probably took over an abandoned town with just the one zombie. If you're within range of a tower, then prepare for at least 25 zed arriving with necros. Necros which arrive in sieges don't arrive ambushing by the way, although it would be possible to have both arrive at the same time. Now that would be unfortunate...

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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 06:27:06 pm »

When they attacked my fort (pre-minecarts) I got 20+ zeds scattered over one to two sides of my map, and a pair of stealthy necromancer dwarves that successfully ninja'd to my refuse/corpse stockpile and animated 40-some muscle shells.  I was able to keep the zeds out, but the constant muscle-shell zombie respawns (those that weren't shattered) where quite annoying, if non-directly-life-threatening.  Lots of dwarves earned skill in dodging and wrestling and punching, though, and my militia got lots of practice attacking the (mostly) harmless shells.
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 01:11:47 am »

my first ever zombie siege was about 45 of them, before the end of year one. I was a little bit unprepared
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 01:19:40 am »

Does magma actually kill zombies now or do thy just burn?
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2012, 01:45:58 am »

no report on the new version yet, but also no indication it has been changed
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2012, 02:56:39 pm »

From the devlog:
|01/10/2009|
861. Bumped into another one of those tough numbers -- this time it was updating temperature effects. Individual tissue layers on body parts can sluff off or boil now, after suffering melting/boiling effects while remaining intact for a short time. They can also be damaged by heat/cold/burning as before.

So basically any body part takes damage after some time, regardless of material.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2012, 04:12:57 pm »

Does magma actually kill zombies now or do thy just burn?

From what I've heard, fire damage kills zombies and husks veeeeeeeeeeery slowly.  They'll literally keep burning for years until there's enough burn damage that the game decides they're dead.
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2012, 04:24:31 pm »

Does magma actually kill zombies now or do thy just burn?

From what I've heard, fire damage kills zombies and husks veeeeeeeeeeery slowly.  They'll literally keep burning for years until there's enough burn damage that the game decides they're dead.
Zombies still have a hit point based system. So that shouldn't even happen, unless environmental damage affects it.

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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 04:44:33 pm »

Atleast back in 34.07 magma usually failed to kill them and regular burning was pretty much useless.

I have had a burning dust zombie in my moat for 5 years now and it is still showing no signs of stopping. (I presume he likes it down there and I have made myself a permanent smoke generator. The dust zombies in my embark seem to be harder to kill than regular ones though.) This was done in 1/7 deep magma, so it is nolonger submerged, just burning.

So, yes, magma and zombies are !FUN!. Instead of a horde of zombie hamsters you will have a horde of !!Giant hamster zombies!!. Just try to keep them somewhere where they cause no cancellation spam. (And for love of armok keep them away from your cats)
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2012, 08:01:19 am »

So the zombies will be burning forever? That's fucking awesome, I shall try them out on goblin prisoners. Want some goblin meatballs in a tin, anyone?
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2012, 08:05:35 am »

What would happen if you dump those things in a volcano?
Will they swim on the surface or sink down?
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Re: Got sieged by a Goblin Corpse, what is going on...?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2012, 08:07:14 am »

Embarked to make a story fort couple versions ago. First seige, 2 zombies. Second seige, 140.
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