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[Rex Invictus]

Is there a way to do summoning / creature creation without using DF hack?

[ldog]

Can anyone tell me how to properly format this?
[REAGENT:plant:1:PLANT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:NONE:NONE]

I've tried various combinations, none of which have worked properly.

[scamtank]

It's item, item subtype, material and finally material subtype(s). Like most item classes, PLANTs don't have any, so that's PLANT:NONE first.

Then you have the material, which I'd imagine is a plant material, specifically the basic structure stuff of pig tails. Plant and creature material subtypes have two parts, so it should go PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL. String those two together.

[ldog]

It's item, item subtype, material and finally material subtype(s). Like most item classes, PLANTs don't have any, so that's PLANT:NONE first.

Then you have the material, which I'd imagine is a plant material, specifically the basic structure stuff of pig tails. Plant and creature material subtypes have two parts, so it should go PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL. String those two together.

So
[REAGENT:plant:1:PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL]
or
[REAGENT:plant:1:PLANT:PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL]
?

[Putnam]

PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL

PLANT:NONE is the item

PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL is the material

[ldog]

PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL

PLANT:NONE is the item

PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL is the material

Ok, so
[REAGENT:plant:1:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:STRUCTURAL]
?

[Putnam]

yes

[ldog]

thanks

[Dirst]

Is there a way to do summoning / creature creation without using DF hack?

Yes, but it convoluted and unreliable.  I can't search for it effectively on my phone, but look for the phrase "hoops as fuck" because that's how the original author described the complicated series of steps.

My initial mod development used that method, but I opted instead to duct-tape together a semi-functional spawn-unit script.

[Putnam]

if I remember correctly, it wasn't the original author who described that way, it was me.

[Urist McGoombaBrother]

I have got two questions for the reaction pro's among you.

1) Glazing

Is it possible to use a powder inside a bag for glazing? If so, how? I could successfully set up a stone boulder outside a bag to be used for glazing. But doing the same with a powder inside a bag did not work.

2) Dyeing

Can I make a custom coloured dye out of a stone boulder or a powder inside a bag?

Many Thx

[Bogus]

Code: [Select]

[REAGENT:glaze:150:POWDER_MISC:NONE:YOURPOWDER:YOURSUBTYPE]
[DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
[REAGENT:glaze bag:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[CONTAINS:glaze]
[PRESERVE_REAGENT]
[DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]

this would be the normal way to use reagents in a bag, not sure you already tried it? the 150 dimension is one full unit of powder, you will want to use this instead of the 1 for boulders. (noticed this actually isnt even a bag but if your reaction puts it into bags it shouldnt be a problem  )

Can I make a custom coloured dye out of a stone boulder or a powder inside a bag?

its possible to do that but you probably will need to use a dummy plant as dyes that are technically not made from plant will produce unusable cloth as far as i recall. would look something like this:

dummy plant, either in its own file or any of the plant raws:

Code: [Select]

[OBJECT:PLANT]

[PLANT:DUMMY_VERMILION]
[NAME:vermilion dye][NAME_PLURAL:vermilion dye][ADJ:vermilion dye]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
[BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
[SHRUB_TILE:','][DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:','][SHRUB_COLOR:6:14:1][DEAD_SHRUB_COLOR:6:14:1][PICKED_TILE:13][PICKED_COLOR:6:14:1]
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:CUSTOM_MILL:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:MILL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILL:PLANT_POWDER_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:vermilion dye]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:VERMILION]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:4:0:1]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
[POWDER_DYE:VERMILION]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[MILL:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:MILL]
[PREFSTRING:bright color]
notice prefstring and proper names so dwarves can like this without displaying silly/weird texts.

modded cinnabar:

Code: [Select]

ore of mercury, powdered gives vermilion dye
[INORGANIC:CINNABAR]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STONE_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:cinnabar][DISPLAY_COLOR:4:7:1][TILE:156]
[ENVIRONMENT:IGNEOUS_EXTRUSIVE:VEIN:100]
[ENVIRONMENT_SPEC:SHALE:VEIN:100]
[ENVIRONMENT_SPEC:QUARTZITE:VEIN:100]
[ITEM_SYMBOL:'*']
[IS_STONE]
[MELTING_POINT:11044]
[SOLID_DENSITY:8100]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:3]
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:DYE_MAT:PLANT_MAT:DUMMY_VERMILION:MILL]

milling reaction:

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:MILL_PIGMENT_STONE]
[NAME:mill rocks to pigment]
[BUILDING:QUERN:CUSTOM_R]
[BUILDING:MILLSTONE:CUSTOM_R]
[REAGENT:stone:1:BOULDER:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:DYE_MAT]
[REAGENT:bag:1:BOX:NONE:NONE:NONE][EMPTY][BAG]
[PRESERVE_REAGENT][DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
[PRODUCT:100:3:POWDER_MISC:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:stone:DYE_MAT]
[PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150][PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:bag]
[SKILL:MILLING]


[Jazzeraint]

Based on the Reactions page, I'm gathering that there's no way to make a custom reaction that uses a live animal (e.g. a custom shearing or milking reaction) ?

[BlackFlyme]

Based on the Reactions page, I'm gathering that there's no way to make a custom reaction that uses a live animal (e.g. a custom shearing or milking reaction) ?

Closest you could get would be to use vermin, since they can be treated as items, but I haven't tried anything like that before. I wouldn't quite know how to go about it, or which hurdles may come up.

[Jazzeraint]

Based on the Reactions page, I'm gathering that there's no way to make a custom reaction that uses a live animal (e.g. a custom shearing or milking reaction) ?

Closest you could get would be to use vermin, since they can be treated as items, but I haven't tried anything like that before. I wouldn't quite know how to go about it, or which hurdles may come up.

Alright, ty~