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Author Topic: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD  (Read 682596 times)

Luckyowl

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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4620 on: May 23, 2020, 08:04:54 pm »
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Help, I am trying to spice up spellcraft by creating a caste system of mages for  magic Humans and dwarves. For someone reason, I can't get the female caste to cast fireball. The male fire mage is able to caste fireball, but at the cost of not being able to pet animals. I am not sure what I am doing wrong here.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4621 on: May 23, 2020, 08:33:59 pm »
Can you also post your fireball interaction?


Also, how does fireball work in a balanced game?  Im asking out of curiousity.
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« Reply #4622 on: May 23, 2020, 08:48:48 pm »
I think you might want to use CAN_DO_INTERACTION, not CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTION. Also your female fire mage caste doesn't have a DESCRIPTION tag.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4623 on: May 23, 2020, 09:03:50 pm »
Quote from: bloop_bleep on May 23, 2020, 07:10:29 pm
Does POP_RATIO accept integers or floating-point numbers? Because if it's integers, you cannot have more than 100 castes and have them all show up in populations.
POP_RATIO is a ratio, not a percentage, the numbers don't have to sum to 100.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4624 on: May 23, 2020, 09:11:29 pm »
Quote from: bloop_bleep on May 23, 2020, 08:48:48 pm
I think you might want to use CAN_DO_INTERACTION, not CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTION. Also your female fire mage caste doesn't have a DESCRIPTION tag.


Thanks! it worked!

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Also, how does fireball work in a balanced game?  Im asking out of curiousity.
Really just roleplay reasoning. The mages who live in fort in spellcraft don't come with magic abilities. So I want to make them caste of mages.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4625 on: May 24, 2020, 12:17:55 am »
You may have better luck makiing them use support spells, such as nasea, pain, or even weakness to weapons.  Or strength against weapons.  Or materials.  I think you can make somebody buffed against meat.

Something like, to insert unsolicited advice:
- weakness to iron/steel
- nausea
- the pain spell, as showcased by necromancers
- a 'self destruct' gas attack spell.  Actually, that might make a good spell to be cast on war animals.  Rather casting a spell that enables the animal to cast its own spells, such as gas attacks.
- strength or agility buffing spells.

I wonder if the game/worldgen will prefer placing some people into military roles if their caste is granted military skills.....  or in certain roles if they have natural skills.  That way you could at least ensure that most of a certain type of mage is placed into a certain role.

You coould give a rare caste great conversational skills, to allow them to predominately occupy noble positions.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4626 on: May 24, 2020, 01:51:43 am »
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Quite frankly you cannot have that many castes.

I had 1728 in a mod once, and, uh, did not run well, though this was back in 32-bit days
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4627 on: May 24, 2020, 04:14:03 am »
Stink spray spell:
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Couple of mephit spells by Deon, with balance adjustments from my experience:
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4628 on: May 24, 2020, 02:54:23 pm »
oh my.  nobody told me 'healing' syndromes were in the game now.


Are there any new usage tokens to help make sure that these 'blessings' or benign spells get used when needed instead of whenever somebody says hi or something?

One of my largest hangups with syndromes was the disparity between adventure mode and fort mode and the usage hints being generally inadequate.


P:

The DEFEND usage hint appears to  . . . not work properly?  Has anyone tried using it?  I have 2 spells I made in 34.xx, a 'rage' spell and a 'bless' spell that have been benched since then because neither could be reasonably fielded by the ai.  Defend caused my elf to target his enemies along with himself for a blessing, and my rage spell still doesnt work with FLEE, nor the new DEFEND.

any help?
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4629 on: May 24, 2020, 07:19:48 pm »
Can a body part have two color modifiers? Trying to add spots to a turtle shell.

So like, if i have two [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SHELL]
each with their own [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER] and different [TLCM_NOUN]s (*shell* and *markings* in this example), would the description give off both shell and markings colors, or would it just give one description for the SHELL bodypart?
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4630 on: May 24, 2020, 08:26:04 pm »
Quote from: ghanditron on May 24, 2020, 07:19:48 pm
Can a body part have two color modifiers? Trying to add spots to a turtle shell.
Nope. https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token#TL_COLOR_MODIFIER
sets a list of possible "colors"(more like named patterns) for that bodypart, with attached occurrence frequencies. 

Create a new color like STRIPES_RAINBOW and
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4631 on: May 24, 2020, 09:03:53 pm »
Thank you for the answer. So if one body part can only have one color or pattern, to get a description like "shell color is brown. shell markings are red and blue", I imagine I could just assign a pattern to like HEAD or whatever but change the noun to "shell markings" for the desired result.

edit: or hmm. This would maybe result in stuff like "their shell markings were cut off" if the unit is decapitated? lol
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4632 on: May 24, 2020, 11:38:59 pm »
From chopping the tail off a cat, it looks like the color descriptor will just disappear, but it will say their tail is gone.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4633 on: May 24, 2020, 11:56:35 pm »
Awesome! Thank you for testing that out! I'm used to just compiling mods for games, actually making my own for DF has been so much fun ^_^ Reminds me of planning a D&D campaign, haha.

Could really do a lot with this knowledge. Like, make a ton of dwarf castes with the only difference being a descriptor. EX: "tattoo of an anvil," "tattoo of a hammer", "tattoo of a barrel" etc. XD

For now I'm content with giving my turtle people some more character. Thanks again!

edit: A part with the noun "favorite color" and then a list of all the colors could be neat. If I understand the tag right, [TLCM_GENETIC_MODEL:MIX] would be needed or else "favorite color" would be genetic, haha. Or, I guess it would still be genetic, just not factoring dominance.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #4634 on: May 26, 2020, 04:28:56 pm »
So I'm gonna make another addition to my ADOM mod, how ever one of the spells in game is called Death Ray, (posted link to article describing spell below)

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How should I add this into my game?

Also the creature I'm adding is represented by an @ in ADOM, how could I make that the creatures symbol in game?

I also want to add dragons with elemental breath attacks (such as frost,acid,lightning, and water) how should I add those?
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