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[Eric Blank]

That probably won't work, no.
I could also be totally wrong about males getting used. You could try adding a roe tissue layer to the female caste explicitly that allows it to be processed to produce roe.

[brolol.404]

That probably won't work, no.
I could also be totally wrong about males getting used. You could try adding a roe tissue layer to the female caste explicitly that allows it to be processed to produce roe.

Will that work for vermin though?

What about if I only put the EXTRACT tag in the female caste.

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:fe_ROE:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
     [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:roe]
     [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:roe]
     [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:liquid roe]
     [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:liquid roe]
     [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling liquid roe]
     [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling liquid roe]
     [EDIBLE_RAW]
     [EDIBLE_COOKED]
     [REACTION_CLASS:fe_ROE]

[CASTE:FEMALE]
  [EXTRACT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:fe_ROE]


[TomiTapio]

I'd take a look at "fish extracts industry", moghopper juice in vanilla: need living caged fish.
https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Extracts#Fishery

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MOG_JUICE:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen mog juice]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen mog juice]
      [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:mog juice]
      [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:mog juice]
      [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling mog juice]
      [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling mog juice]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
   [EXTRACT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:MOG_JUICE]

[brolol.404]

I'd take a look at "fish extracts industry", moghopper juice in vanilla: need living caged fish.
https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Extracts#Fishery

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MOG_JUICE:CREATURE_EXTRACT_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen mog juice]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen mog juice]
      [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:mog juice]
      [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:mog juice]
      [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling mog juice]
      [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling mog juice]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
   [EXTRACT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:MOG_JUICE]

Thanks. That's where my raws cane from. We are discussing possible ways to restrict the reaction to the female caste.

[TomiTapio]

Thanks. That's where my raws cane from. We are discussing possible ways to restrict the reaction to the female caste.

Wiki says the EXTRACT token is caste-level, so could try putting the EXTRACT tag in the roe-having caste.

[brolol.404]

Thanks. I will try it out

[brolol.404]

Does BODY_SIZE change a live vermin/fish/unprepared fish weight?

Or does the weight always default to 5 based on this:
https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/40d:Weight

[voliol]

No in the case of fish, both prepared and unprepared. Yes in the case of live vermin. All fish should weigh ~0.2 kg, if their main material is any normal organic material with a density of about 1 g/cm². The volume of the fish item in the current version is 200 cm².

https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Weight

[brolol.404]

No in the case of fish, both prepared and unprepared. Yes in the case of live vermin. All fish should weigh ~0.2 kg, if their main material is any normal organic material with a density of about 1 g/cm². The volume of the fish item in the current version is 200 cm².

https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Weight

thanks. I thought it would be cool to catch different size trophy fish, but I guess that is still possible with capture live fishing

I am planning on adding this to the bass for example. Hopefully it will create a size diversity within a type of fish.

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[MAXAGE:0:15]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:200]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:500]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:1000]
[BODY_SIZE:3:0:1500]
[BODY_SIZE:4:0:2000]
[BODY_SIZE:5:0:2500]
[BODY_SIZE:6:0:3000]
[BODY_SIZE:7:0:3250]
[BODY_SIZE:8:0:3500]
[BODY_SIZE:9:0:4000]
[BODY_SIZE:10:0:4500]
[BODY_SIZE:11:0:4750]
[BODY_SIZE:12:0:5000]
[BODY_SIZE:13:0:5250]
[BODY_SIZE:14:0:5500]
[BODY_SIZE:15:0:6000]

[Hetsin]

I have a tissue that I'm using to fill space and represent biological cavities, pleural and cranial primarily. I have it at 0 density, 0 strength and yield and 100000 strain at yield for all types. The intention was to make the tissue effectively nothing, but it's still showing up in combat reports occasionally (being torn mostly). Is there a method that I'm missing to achieve what I hope to without the tissue being mentioned in reports or do I have to do a rethink of the tissue layering?

[TomiTapio]

I have a tissue that I'm using to fill space and represent biological cavities, pleural and cranial primarily. I have it at 0 density, 0 strength and yield and 100000 strain at yield for all types. The intention was to make the tissue effectively nothing, but it's still showing up in combat reports occasionally (being torn mostly). Is there a method that I'm missing to achieve what I hope to without the tissue being mentioned in reports or do I have to do a rethink of the tissue layering?

Hmm... it still has volume and connections to neighboring tissue.
Perhaps a gaseous tissue for the cavities?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [TISSUE:GAS222]
     [TISSUE_NAME:interior gas:NP]
     [TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:GAS111]
     [TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS]
     [FUNCTIONAL]
     [STRUCTURAL]
     [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:10]
     [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
     [TISSUE_LEAKS]

[Hetsin]

I have a tissue that I'm using to fill space and represent biological cavities, pleural and cranial primarily. I have it at 0 density, 0 strength and yield and 100000 strain at yield for all types. The intention was to make the tissue effectively nothing, but it's still showing up in combat reports occasionally (being torn mostly). Is there a method that I'm missing to achieve what I hope to without the tissue being mentioned in reports or do I have to do a rethink of the tissue layering?

Hmm... it still has volume and connections to neighboring tissue.
Perhaps a gaseous tissue for the cavities?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   [TISSUE:GAS222]
     [TISSUE_NAME:interior gas:NP]
     [TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:GAS111]
     [TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS]
     [FUNCTIONAL]
     [STRUCTURAL]
     [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:10]
     [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
     [TISSUE_LEAKS]

Ooo. I hadn't thought of that, thank you. I'll try it out when I get the chance.

Edit: Unfortunately making it a gas causes bursts of it to spew out whenever it's punctured. Liquid and solid powder states are still reported in the combat logs. I'll have to have a think.

[Eric Blank]

Liquid and gas tissues will escape from the body from wounds on parts that don't even include that tissue, so it may not be ideal. Say, your cranial gas will leak out if the second toe, left foot gets cut open

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Liquid and gas tissues will escape from the body from wounds on parts that don't even include that tissue, so it may not be ideal. Say, your cranial gas will leak out if the second toe, left foot gets cut open

only if it has [CONNECTS] if you don't have that, it's per part I believe. also lacking a [TISSUE_LEAKS] makes said liquid/gas tissue take longer to be depleted as it's slowly shaved off with every hit

[Eric Blank]

Really? Ill have to test that...