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[EternalCaveDragon]

Yup, that should do it.

 

Oi, I was talking specifically about the POP_RATIO tags for the purposes of them working. Not the actual end ratio. 

[brolol.404]

No, not at all, demons aren't a selectable (at all typically) demons are by default the leaders of the dark fortress sites irregardless of what you put in, which can be overwritten and edited by a [POSITION:MONARCH] role in the civ to give you a little bit of control over them.

It wouldn't make a difference to use population weight until the demon is dead from the remaining population to find a successor. Without demons in worldgen (number of demons can be edited though they are in fortress mode innumerable wilderness populations) dark sites and the underworld won't generate.

That's also a improper use of creature ratio for application.

Code: ("example creature code") [Select]

creature file .txt
creature standard.txt

[CREATURE:DWARF]

[CASTE:MALE]
[POP_RATIO:498]

[CASTE:FEMALE]
[POP_RATIO:498]

[CASTE:UGLY_MALE]
[POP_RATIO:2] <- it adds up but for equal % they shouldn't be uneven, if this was cleanly 1/2 chance it would be 500 and 500

Code: ("example position code") [Select]

[POSITION:MONARCH] // if a dark site like i said, it will always start with a demon but someone can be the successor if the civ dies in a format like the below tag.
[ALLOWED_CREATURE:DWARF:FEMALE] // <-example, creature (mandatory for this token) and caste (optional)

I had no idea you were using it for that purpose from the outset of your original question.

Yup, that should do it.

 

Thanks. It doesnt have to an actual in game demon. I can just use "demon" in the description... but if a demon is already automatically in charge of a dark fortress I dont know if it matters much. I could just let the game assign a demon then

[DerMeister]

If add to gremlin or other sapient creature hunts_vermin, will it works?

[FantasticDorf]

If add to gremlin or other sapient creature hunts_vermin, will it works?

As far as im aware it will not work, you will have to try it personally because they will be more concerned doing intelligent sentient things like drinking in the tavern or praying.

[DerMeister]

If add to gremlin or other sapient creature hunts_vermin, will it works?

As far as im aware it will not work, you will have to try it personally because they will be more concerned doing intelligent sentient things like drinking in the tavern or praying.

Will creatures with gobble_vermin really eat them or just kill like normal hunts_vermin? Can these creatures eat remains?

[DerMeister]

If creature attack have skill MINING, will creature mine without digger (pick)?

[Putnam]

No, and in fact skill has nothing to do with whether mining is possible, only the DIGGER token in the entity.

[brolol.404]

So, using this as an example:

Code: [Select]

[CREATURE:DWARF]

        [DESCRIPTION:A short, sturdy creature fond of drink and industry.]
[NAME:dwarf:dwarves:dwarven]
[CASTE_NAME:dwarf:dwarves:dwarven]
[CREATURE_TILE:d][COLOR:3:0:0]

[BODY_SIZE:0:0:3000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:168:15000]
[BODY_SIZE:12:0:60000]


[CASTE:MALE]
[POP_RATIO:498]

[CASTE:FEMALE]
[POP_RATIO:498]

[CASTE:UGLY_MALE]
[POP_RATIO:2]

        [DESCRIPTION:An ugly dwarf.]
[NAME:ugly dwarf:ugly dwarves:ugly dwarven]
[CASTE_NAME:ugly dwarf:ugly dwarves:ugly dwarven]
[CREATURE_TILE:U][COLOR:4:0:0]

[BODY_SIZE:0:0:100000000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:168:230000000]
[BODY_SIZE:12:0:9000000000]


Will this work? Will tags in a caste replace the general creature tags or do I have to convert the tags somehow?

[FantasticDorf]

So, using this as an example:

Code: [Select]

[CREATURE:DWARF]

        [DESCRIPTION:A short, sturdy creature fond of drink and industry.]
[NAME:dwarf:dwarves:dwarven]
[CASTE_NAME:dwarf:dwarves:dwarven]
[CREATURE_TILE:d][COLOR:3:0:0]

[BODY_SIZE:0:0:3000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:168:15000]
[BODY_SIZE:12:0:60000]


[CASTE:MALE]
[POP_RATIO:498]

[CASTE:FEMALE]
[POP_RATIO:498]

[CASTE:UGLY_MALE]
[POP_RATIO:2]

        [DESCRIPTION:An ugly dwarf.]
[NAME:ugly dwarf:ugly dwarves:ugly dwarven]
[CASTE_NAME:ugly dwarf:ugly dwarves:ugly dwarven]
[CREATURE_TILE:U][COLOR:4:0:0]

[BODY_SIZE:0:0:100000000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:168:230000000]
[BODY_SIZE:12:0:9000000000]


Will this work? Will tags in a caste replace the general creature tags or do I have to convert the tags somehow?

Roughly yeah, but at the caste level it partially overwrites the original creature for deviations (with some notable boundaries like you can't set mega beasts within a caste etc), normal examples involve geldables on male creatures and how female cows/sheep do not have additional horn BP's & milk

[brolol.404]

Thanks. Based on the horn example it sounds like I can change the body detail plan and add wings to a caste as well?

Edit: what about physical attributes and natural skills?

[Eric Blank]

Individual castes can have all these things, yes.

Keep in mind if you add wings and the creature can fly, that could turn into a huge problem, if it's a sapient or playable race, because pathing for flyers isn't properly implemented and only works for meandering animals. So a sapient flier trying to reach a specific destination for a job or something could end up stuck hovering in the air, and in fortress mode will need stairs built next to it to figure out how to get back to the ground.

Your adventurer when starting a game, also won't inherit natural skills granted their race/caste, consider using improved skill learn rates instead or in addition to natural skills, which will allow an adventurer to quickly acquire skills they're supposed to have an advantage in.

[Emperor Sheev]

I've started to mod in genies, and the current idea (stolen from the Mythical Monsters Mod's leprechauns) is to attach a syndrome to the magic lamp creature's blood that turns it into a genie. However, it doesn't bleed, and I don't really want to go through the work of adding an interior tissue if I don't have to. Here are the raws:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[CREATURE:MAGIC_LAMP]
   [DESCRIPTION: A lamp that hobbles around. Should you break it, a genie will be released!]
   [NAME:magic lamp:magic lamps]
   [CASTE_NAME:magic lamp:magic lamps:magic lamp]
   [BODY:BASIC_1PARTBODY:HEART]
   [NOEXERT]
   [NOCTURNAL]
   [NOPAIN]
   [NO_SLEEP]
   [NO_EAT]
   [NO_DRINK]
   [NOBREATHE]
   [EXTRAVISION]
   [NOTHOUGHT]
   [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]
   [FLEEQUICK]
   [CREATURE_TILE:11][COLOR:6:0:1]
   [INTELLIGENT]
   [CAN_LEARN]
   [TISSUE:LAMP]
          [TISSUE_NAME:lamp:lamps]
          [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:BRONZE]
          [MUSCULAR]
          [FUNCTIONAL]
          [STRUCTURAL]
          [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
          [CONNECTS]
          [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:LAMP]   
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
   [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:850:561:471:243:1900:2900]
   [BODY_SIZE:1:1:200]

[brolol.404]

Individual castes can have all these things, yes.

Keep in mind if you add wings and the creature can fly, that could turn into a huge problem, if it's a sapient or playable race, because pathing for flyers isn't properly implemented and only works for meandering animals. So a sapient flier trying to reach a specific destination for a job or something could end up stuck hovering in the air, and in fortress mode will need stairs built next to it to figure out how to get back to the ground.

Your adventurer when starting a game, also won't inherit natural skills granted their race/caste, consider using improved skill learn rates instead or in addition to natural skills, which will allow an adventurer to quickly acquire skills they're supposed to have an advantage in.

Thanks this is really useful. I'm not sure my mod will allow for players to use the race so I'm not sure flying matter though

[brolol.404]

I've started to mod in genies, and the current idea (stolen from the Mythical Monsters Mod's leprechauns) is to attach a syndrome to the magic lamp creature's blood that turns it into a genie. However, it doesn't bleed, and I don't really want to go through the work of adding an interior tissue if I don't have to. Here are the raws:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[CREATURE:MAGIC_LAMP]
   [DESCRIPTION: A lamp that hobbles around. Should you break it, a genie will be released!]
   [NAME:magic lamp:magic lamps]
   [CASTE_NAME:magic lamp:magic lamps:magic lamp]
   [BODY:BASIC_1PARTBODY:HEART]
   [NOEXERT]
   [NOCTURNAL]
   [NOPAIN]
   [NO_SLEEP]
   [NO_EAT]
   [NO_DRINK]
   [NOBREATHE]
   [EXTRAVISION]
   [NOTHOUGHT]
   [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]
   [FLEEQUICK]
   [CREATURE_TILE:11][COLOR:6:0:1]
   [INTELLIGENT]
   [CAN_LEARN]
   [TISSUE:LAMP]
          [TISSUE_NAME:lamp:lamps]
          [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:BRONZE]
          [MUSCULAR]
          [FUNCTIONAL]
          [STRUCTURAL]
          [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
          [CONNECTS]
          [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:LAMP]   
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
   [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:850:561:471:243:1900:2900]
   [BODY_SIZE:1:1:200]

Very cool idea. I would just give it an "attack" though as a can do interaction. Also I dont think you need can learn if you have intelligent

[EternalCaveDragon]

Very cool idea. I would just give it an "attack" though as a can do interaction. Also I dont think you need can learn if you have intelligent

According to the wiki, INTELLIGENT implies both CAN_LEARN and CAN_SPEAK. So yeah, you don't need both.