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Author Topic: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD  (Read 698254 times)

Eric Blank

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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3180 on: May 08, 2018, 05:53:41 pm »

You would probably be best able to tell if the creature has multiple rear legs, but i suspect its actually recording multiple wounds on the same part.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3181 on: May 09, 2018, 02:49:53 am »

If an entity has no metal access but does have access to stone weapons like obsidian short swords and the like, will they show up with weapons as adventurers/war parties?  Or am I going to have to create pseudo-metals to allow for bone/stone/etc weapons to be used by attacking war parties?
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3182 on: May 09, 2018, 06:15:01 pm »

If an entity has no metal access but does have access to stone weapons like obsidian short swords and the like, will they show up with weapons as adventurers/war parties?  Or am I going to have to create pseudo-metals to allow for bone/stone/etc weapons to be used by attacking war parties?
Here's testing material from OldGenesis for you:
In OldGenesis I/we have "pseudoweapons" to ensure that rock weapons are way worse than metal weapons.
And a reaction class tag on those rocks that actual stone age people used for tools.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3183 on: May 10, 2018, 04:31:27 pm »

How would I go about creating a caste of infertile, yet still sexed creatures?
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« Reply #3184 on: May 10, 2018, 05:45:31 pm »

I believe there is an INFERTILE token.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3185 on: May 10, 2018, 06:07:38 pm »

I believe there is an INFERTILE token.

You must be misremembering, can't find a reference to that anywhere.

Maybe make castes that are labeled "male" and "female" but that actually don't have the [MALE] or [FEMALE] tags?
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3186 on: May 10, 2018, 06:12:09 pm »

There's a [STERILE] token that gets added to vampires and necromancers, but I don't know if it can be added to a creature file.

I believe there is an INFERTILE token.

You must be misremembering, can't find a reference to that anywhere.

Maybe make castes that are labeled "male" and "female" but that actually don't have the [MALE] or [FEMALE] tags?
They'd still get called "it" in descriptors.

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« Reply #3187 on: May 10, 2018, 06:14:42 pm »

Maybe make castes that are labeled "male" and "female" but that actually don't have the [MALE] or [FEMALE] tags?
This would de-sex them though. One solution I've considered is using [ORIENTATION], but that would make them asexual, not infertile. It's mechanically similar in that both prevent offspring, but it also removes their ability to get married, which wouldn't make much sense.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3188 on: May 10, 2018, 11:49:58 pm »

There's a [STERILE] token that gets added to vampires and necromancers, but I don't know if it can be added to a creature file.

I believe there is an INFERTILE token.

You must be misremembering, can't find a reference to that anywhere.

Maybe make castes that are labeled "male" and "female" but that actually don't have the [MALE] or [FEMALE] tags?
They'd still get called "it" in descriptors.

Can't add [STERILE] to creatures, only in syndromes.

Maybe make castes that are labeled "male" and "female" but that actually don't have the [MALE] or [FEMALE] tags?
This would de-sex them though. One solution I've considered is using [ORIENTATION], but that would make them asexual, not infertile. It's mechanically similar in that both prevent offspring, but it also removes their ability to get married, which wouldn't make much sense.

This is my main method. Could let them still get into romance, just never married.

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« Reply #3189 on: May 11, 2018, 10:52:50 am »

So, hello! New to modding, but it has been easy enough; working on adding a few creatures. First one was a relatively simple alpaca re-skin; just added horns, gave it a bit more value to it, and made it a bit rarer; among other minor changes. No problem there.

The problem I'm having is with my second creature. I'm adding in the Larinoth from Monster Hunter (I'll add an image in the spoiler below, for reference). Now a good deal was simple; I mostly just modified a Giant Olm to have a longer neck and scales. My concern is the positioning. Obviously, these things hold their head far higher than Olms, and are less sprawling; so I'm unsure of how to, or even if I need to, make these changes. I know that the eyes are listed as "On front" of the face, for example; but that's so general, it might as well be one above the other like a colon. Is this the same way? Code related to the body plan included below.

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[BODY:QUADRUPED_NECK:TAIL:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:MOUTH:TONGUE:RIBCAGE]
[RELSIZE:BY_CATEGORY:NECK:1000]
[RELSIZE:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:150]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:SKIN]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:LEATHER]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:PARCHMENT]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:HAIR]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:SKIN]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:HAIR]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
[PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SKIN:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:LEATHERY_EGG_MATERIALS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3190 on: May 11, 2018, 12:54:47 pm »

Dwarf fortress, as far as I can tell, makes no real difference between a giraffe and say, a sauropod when it comes to positions of things

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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3191 on: May 11, 2018, 01:24:20 pm »

As to his comment of the EYEs, bodyparts have their own LEFT and RIGHT tokens, the added body detail plan options for "positioning" parts is due to the new combat stuff. It'd be harder to hit a part if it's FRONT if i'm attacking from behind.

So with EYEs being FRONT they still have their respected LEFT and RIGHT values so they're actually FRONT-LEFT and FRONT-RIGHT

so yeah Scourge is right, everything is practically just a mess of different sized orbs. It's just the behaviors of the parts and our imagination that aid in "assembling" them
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3192 on: May 12, 2018, 06:52:00 am »

How can I make a creature more resistant to fire?  Not necessarily totally immune, and not immune to magma, as something like FIXED_TEMP would accomplish, but just a creature that won't ignite/melt in, say, a normal forest fire?
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3193 on: May 12, 2018, 01:54:30 pm »

Raise its heatdam and melting points to just below 11000, i think? Like 10,950. Im not sure how feasible that is, though, i have no idea what the average temperature of a forest fire is in df, and the game gets silly about temperatures anyway.
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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #3194 on: May 12, 2018, 03:53:20 pm »

How can I make a creature more resistant to fire?  Not necessarily totally immune, and not immune to magma, as something like FIXED_TEMP would accomplish, but just a creature that won't ignite/melt in, say, a normal forest fire?

Raise its heatdam and melting points to just below 11000, i think? Like 10,950. Im not sure how feasible that is, though, i have no idea what the average temperature of a forest fire is in df, and the game gets silly about temperatures anyway.

To add to Eric's reply

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Temperature

Basically lava/magma is 12000 and normal fire is what Eric said 11000. However is something catches fire I can't seem to find it but once something reaches it's IGNITE_POINT it increases it's temp slightly above that point however since I'm having trouble finding that, it sounds more like I'm full of it

EDIT: if I am right, then something that catches fire at 10950 could potentially get hotter than 11000
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