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Author Topic: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD  (Read 698489 times)

Managrimm

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Re: [MODDING] CREATURE & ENTITY QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #2055 on: August 11, 2016, 09:00:39 pm »

... Whelp, that was it. I forgot to give it a brain.

It was surprisingly active for not having a brain.
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« Reply #2056 on: August 11, 2016, 10:46:26 pm »

So, the Armokian creature works now. But of course now I'm having problems with the entity, and I can't figure it out, so I was wondering if anyone knew what I did wrong.
Right now the civ doesn't show up in worldgen, which is a small issue. I also wanted to add DIVINE weapons and armor, but when the errorlog complained about DIVINE_CLOTH, I decided to play it safe. Still not sure if they would work.

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For some reason I have a feeling my mistake was really obvious.
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« Reply #2057 on: August 12, 2016, 12:29:30 am »

So, the Armokian creature works now. But of course now I'm having problems with the entity, and I can't figure it out, so I was wondering if anyone knew what I did wrong.
Right now the civ doesn't show up in worldgen, which is a small issue. I also wanted to add DIVINE weapons and armor, but when the errorlog complained about DIVINE_CLOTH, I decided to play it safe. Still not sure if they would work.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

For some reason I have a feeling my mistake was really obvious.

I think they aren't appearing because they're lacking these two tokens
   [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
   [MAX_POP_NUMBER:10000]
That may be the source of your problems. But I'm not 100% sure.
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« Reply #2058 on: August 12, 2016, 09:33:54 am »

IIRC you're not supposed to re-use [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]...not sure if thats true though

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« Reply #2059 on: August 12, 2016, 11:08:47 am »

IIRC you're not supposed to re-use [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]...not sure if thats true though

So "Entity" refers to the civilization, and "Creature" refers to the people of that civilization?

Here's something relevant from the wiki that might explain why a creature that shares an entity might not appear sometimes:

>If multiple creature types are specified [for an entity], each civilization will randomly choose one of the creatures.
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« Reply #2060 on: August 12, 2016, 11:28:55 am »

Yeah, as long as you still have your original dwarves' entity, you can't use [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN], instead name it anything else that isn't being used yet. Something like [ENTITY:ARMOKIAN] for example.
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« Reply #2061 on: August 12, 2016, 11:34:23 am »

so does changing tissue material affect save games?

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« Reply #2062 on: August 12, 2016, 12:01:21 pm »

IIRC you're not supposed to re-use [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]...not sure if thats true though

I...
I forgot to rename it.

Well, thanks for bringing that to my attention.
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« Reply #2063 on: August 12, 2016, 06:04:33 pm »

IIRC you're not supposed to re-use [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]...not sure if thats true though

It causes duped raws, which is very bad.

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« Reply #2064 on: August 12, 2016, 06:05:58 pm »

Or very, very fun, depending on your point of view.
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« Reply #2065 on: August 13, 2016, 12:38:42 pm »

Are there any guidelines to help on setting the pet values of custom creatures?
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« Reply #2066 on: August 13, 2016, 02:56:39 pm »

Are there any guidelines to help on setting the pet values of custom creatures?

Check here- http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token#P.
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« Reply #2067 on: August 13, 2016, 03:45:11 pm »

Are there any guidelines to help on setting the pet values of custom creatures?

Check here- http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token#P.

Sorry, I was unclear. I know how to set the actual value. I wanted to know how I should figure out what to set that value as. As in, if I make a custom creature that doesn't really have an in-game equivalent how do I know how much it should be worth?
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« Reply #2068 on: August 13, 2016, 04:28:57 pm »

Are there any guidelines to help on setting the pet values of custom creatures?

Check here- http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token#P.

Sorry, I was unclear. I know how to set the actual value. I wanted to know how I should figure out what to set that value as. As in, if I make a custom creature that doesn't really have an in-game equivalent how do I know how much it should be worth?

Oh, okay. I don't really know.
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« Reply #2069 on: August 13, 2016, 04:38:26 pm »

I would say you should base it off of something with a similar strength or meat, milk etc value
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