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[leafbarrett]

How to add steel starting gear for human in adventure mode?

I don't think you can alter the starting gear willingly. You can make it so humans are CAPABLE of making steel (which in vanilla they aren't, steel is a dwarf-only thing).
In entity_default, paste this under the human civ (PLAINS):
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PIG_IRON_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:STEEL_MAKING]

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

I have been looking at the symbol options (select, subselect, and cull) for Entities and while the noun seems easy enough (the wiki page has a list under SELECT_SYMBOL from what I can tell, if it isn't a full list I would appreciate being told that as well) the symbol part itself doesn't seem to have a list of what is valid anywhere I can find. I have tried searching a bit here and on the wiki but haven't had any luck.

[Dirst]

I have been looking at the symbol options (select, subselect, and cull) for Entities and while the noun seems easy enough (the wiki page has a list under SELECT_SYMBOL from what I can tell, if it isn't a full list I would appreciate being told that as well) the symbol part itself doesn't seem to have a list of what is valid anywhere I can find. I have tried searching a bit here and on the wiki but haven't had any luck.

My guess is that it's the symbols listed in language_SYM.txt.  What I'm curious about is whether the list of potential symbols is hardcoded, or if a total conversion mod could have arbitrary symbols in it.

[Putnam]

Arbitrary symbols can definitely be added.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

Thank you Dirst for pointing me to that you have made what I am doing easier. Also thank you Putnam you have made my job harder but saved me from future pitfalls.

Oh and Dirst having looked at the file it is actually easy to add new symbols. The format using a pre-existing example is

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[SYMBOL:ARTIFICE]
[S_WORD:ABBEY]and then the dwarves who have [T_WORD:ABBEY:kulet] in their language file will associate the word abbey to artifice and yes a word can be associated with multiple symbols as abbey is also in THOUGHT, NAME_BUILDING_TEMPLE, and HOLY. It actually looks like it would be harder to add a new word in as if you wanted it to be recognized by everyone you would have to add it to all the language files and then add it to all the relevant symbols that and the word file itself.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

Okay, new question (or two). Currently looking into spheres. The wiki entries says if you have a sphere such as water then the species can't have fire. The game doesn't break if you put both. Does it just not accept any opposing spheres to any you have first or if your dealing with a pantheon could one god have fire then another have water? Also with SPHERE_ALIGNMENT it has a number. How does the number effect the game as it doesn't have a max or min listed. When I was dealing with ART_FACET_MODIFIER and the other similar ones to it the scale was 0 to 26500 with 256 as neutral and the effect was multiplicative.

[Putnam]

Thank you Dirst for pointing me to that you have made what I am doing easier. Also thank you Putnam you have made my job harder but saved me from future pitfalls.

Oh and Dirst having looked at the file it is actually easy to add new symbols. The format using a pre-existing example is

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[SYMBOL:ARTIFICE]
[S_WORD:ABBEY]and then the dwarves who have [T_WORD:ABBEY:kulet] in their language file will associate the word abbey to artifice and yes a word can be associated with multiple symbols as abbey is also in THOUGHT, NAME_BUILDING_TEMPLE, and HOLY. It actually looks like it would be harder to add a new word in as if you wanted it to be recognized by everyone you would have to add it to all the language files and then add it to all the relevant symbols that and the word file itself.

I think you're overcomplicating this.

SYMBOLS are for connecting the words in language_words to certain concepts.

language_dwarf and others are translations--a translated string for each word. These have nothing to do with symbols. An entity with a translation that is missing ABBEY will still use ABBEY, but it will render as " ".

Okay, new question (or two). Currently looking into spheres. The wiki entries says if you have a sphere such as water then the species can't have fire. The game doesn't break if you put both. Does it just not accept any opposing spheres to any you have first or if your dealing with a pantheon could one god have fire then another have water? Also with SPHERE_ALIGNMENT it has a number. How does the number effect the game as it doesn't have a max or min listed. When I was dealing with ART_FACET_MODIFIER and the other similar ones to it the scale was 0 to 26500 with 256 as neutral and the effect was multiplicative.

Creature SPHEREs are unrelated to pantheon SPHERE_ALIGNMENTs.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

And that is why I posted it here as I know that in anything like this the more sure you are of something the more likely it is to be wrong. All that is left is what the dang number means.

Edit: Knowing at least the range would be perfectly fine.

[leafbarrett]

Do small or internal body parts, like lungs or ears, count in calculating the relative size of body parts?


Is there a way to add body parts to an existing creature (as in a single creature, not the whole species) without transforming them entirely?

[Putnam]

1. yes

2. no, and for future reference what you use "species" for is usually called "creature" and what you use "creature" for is usually called "unit"

[Enemy post]

I'd like to make a race that is mostly clean-shaven, but with a small minority that has long hair. Is this doable?

[BlackFlyme]

Entities can have [TS_MAINTAIN_LENGTH:Min_Value:Max_Value] to determine the average acceptable length for styled tissues. Dwarves have this to ensure most males will have beards, though there are still outliers who go clean-shaven.

[Enemy post]

Thanks, BlackFlyme. That's what I needed.

I don't think you can alter the starting gear willingly. You can make it so humans are CAPABLE of making steel (which in vanilla they aren't, steel is a dwarf-only thing).
In entity_default, paste this under the human civ (PLAINS):
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:PIG_IRON_MAKING]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:STEEL_MAKING]

Also, I'm using this. Thanks Leafbarrett.

[FantasticDorf]

Hi i have a question about creature variation.

For a bit of background im trying to edit in a creature variational shortcut for inferring intelligence without having to rip out the creature raw and make a new one, instead putting it into practically identical castes with the variational changes in force.

Spoiler: My Project (click to show/hide)

Meaning that taking a troll for a prime example, i could entirely remove the semi-sapience of them from base raws add some new pet tags for goblins to use (making them edible and useful material wise and shearable, not to mention importable via trade), but have 1/10 and 1/20 chances (or therabouts) for semi-intelligent and intelligent castes to be born with seperate raws. To tell them apart i would attach a BP group indicative of 'intelligence' such as eyes possessing a soul or some other indicator, so that they filter through and can be discriminated from natural groups or behaviour in fortress mode by observation in the same entrance off the map rather than staggered between the smart and the dim entering predictably at different times as you would get with seperate raw entries.

This is effectively leaving the door open for more tags and possibly rolling the sentient troll castes into their own little subterrean civilisation or join up with the goblins as equal citizens/adventurer/traveler-local hero types alongside their trained feral and dim cousins who naturally get rolled into gobbo civs because of tag compatibility. All and all it fleshes them out and resolves issues about how wonky semi-sapients who are so close to animals (no prerequisite for marriage, inaccessible basic minds & needs) yet so incredibly close to sentients (equips/open doors etc, ability to sing) at the same time are.

Yeti's and troglodytes (as well as expanding the industrial & yarn use on those creatures, yeti fur is very interesting for being so insular, so if i modded in ice-breath creatures, the materials would protect my dwarves) are also of interest in the long run, and if its of any use this intelligence can be used in reverse for turning sentients into beast like creatures via [crazed] also thrown in as interactions against certain civ creature entities as per secrets and curses etc.

Defining which variational tag traits i want to remove and enter at once isnt a problem, but im having a little bit of trouble thinking of a way to fix the odds of a caste being born, unless im reading it wrong. The little guidance part of C-variational about 5|6 and ARG! is a bit more difficult when trying to put them into practical means if you don't really touch the subject as per routine raw modding a lot.

I plan to use [USE_CASTE] in order to get my castes all uniform with the base male/female, though i don't have a clear plan of how to shove all these castes in and execute them without some overlap, its just a concern on the side right now while i figure out the core root of how to get them all shoved in in the first place.

A start of what im working on right now, it'll need more refinement but that's just 1 iteration and a shortcut if you don't really care about modifying the base creature. The intelligent variant is a bit more fleshed out and has room for additional variables like personality.

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:SEMI_INTELLIGENT_BEAST]
        [CV_REMOVE_TAG:PET]
        [CV_REMOVE_TAG:PET_EXOTIC]
        [CV_REMOVE_TAG:MOUNT]
        [CV_REMOVE_TAG:MOUNT_EXOTIC]
        [CV_ADD_TAG:UTTERANCES]
        [CV_ADD_TAG:SLOW_LEARNER]
        [CV_ADD_TAG:CAN_OPEN_DOORS]
        [CV_ADD_TAG:LOCAL_POPS_CONTROLLABLE]
        [CV_CONVERT_TAG]
           [CVCT_MASTER:INTELLIGENT]
       [CVCT_REPLACEMENT:SEMI_INTELLIGENT]
        [CV_CONVERT_TAG]
           [CVCT_MASTER:CAN_SPEAK]
       [CVCT_REPLACEMENT:UTTERANCES]

[Repseki]

Cool project. Don't really know enough to help out with your question, but I don't believe SEMI_INTELLIGENT is a proper creature tag. I couldn't find it on the wiki at the very least.