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[teabasins]

the only thing I see what could be making the difference, is
[START_BIOME:MOUNTAIN]
Vanilla uses:
[EXCLUSIVE_START_BIOME:MOUNTAIN]

The issue started before I made that change. It doesn't even have any functional implications anyway since [START_BIOME:MOUNTAIN] is just an alias for [EXCLUSIVE_START_BIOME:MOUNTAIN] + [SETTLEMENT_BIOME:MOUNTAIN].

What version are you working with?

50.11

[joostheger]

Well I guess the best thing you can do, is revert to vanilla, and then apply your changes one by one, untill you encounter the problem.

[Eric Blank]

I've had that issue too, and just gave up and made some edible shrubs and fruit trees that grow in mountain biomes. They'll only grow on the lowest z-level of the mountain range where it's adjacent to other biomes in-game, so it's not excessively noticeable. It's enough to prevent the world rejections.

[joostheger]

Did you specificly mod them to grow on the lowest z-levels? Or did they just happen to grow only there? If so: I'm curious how you did that

Maybe you could make some sort of dummy-schrub, that will let the game believe the biome has edable fruit, but wont show up in the game anyway.

[Eric Blank]

Seems to be the game just doesn't let them grow above a certain point. A dummy shrub isn't necessary.

[IronyOwl]

Does anyone know if it's possible to create organic products through building reactions, like if I wanted a smelter to produce wheat beer or cow milk? Reactions using stuff like that as inputs tend to be generic with initial syntax and then specify reaction classes or the like, which doesn't work if I need a bucket of elf blood specifically and not a generic MISC_LIQUID.

[Eric Blank]

Does anyone know if it's possible to create organic products through building reactions, like if I wanted a smelter to produce wheat beer or cow milk? Reactions using stuff like that as inputs tend to be generic with initial syntax and then specify reaction classes or the like, which doesn't work if I need a bucket of elf blood specifically and not a generic MISC_LIQUID.

You would in fact want LIQUID_MISC:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:ELF:BLOOD with PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150

reaction classes are used to take an input of any species, like a capybara raw hide, and produce an output linked to that same species, like capybara parchment. If you only want to output the same thing everytime, you can just use CREATURE_MAT: or PLANT_MAT:, the ID of the species you want to pull from, and then the material ID from the species' definition. It has to be a material defined in thar species' raws though, like you can't produce elf scales until you add at least USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE to the elf raws (you don't have to incorporate the material anywhere like in a tissue layer for reactions to call on it, the material just has to be added to the creature by a body detail plan or the prior example.)

Disclaimer; I'm posting from my phone and could have messed up any of those strings. Your milage may vary.

[IronyOwl]

Thanks, that worked perfectly! I was likewise able to use [PRODUCT:100:1:DRINK:NONE:PLANT_MAT:RYE:DRINK][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150] to get rye beer. These will enable many shenanigans.

[flyteofheart]

Im trying to update some of Taffer's old stuff and im hitting a roadblock.

You can't use [select] on c_variation_default, so how do you edit broadly animal people?  For example, to add [CV_REMOVE_TAG:LAYS_EGGS] so animal people don't lay eggs.

Or to edit an attack like TALON_SCRATCH_ATTACK to make it deadlier

You can't even cut and replace this file without cutting the entire creature folder it looks like??? or am I misunderstanding?

[Eric Blank]

You should be able to cut it, but since it and the creatures it modifies are in the same file, your changes wont take effect. You have to cut all the animal people individually and re-add them after a new creature variation file. As long as your mod loads right after the vanilla creatures it should effectively replace them with no additional issues. Well, maybe graphical issues, so it should probably go between the creature definitions and graphics.

[flyteofheart]

Will that make my mod incompatible with any mod that changes animal people or any of the creature files?

thanks for the answer

[Eric Blank]

It will be incompatible if they also delete the animal people and re-add them, since that would then override your/their changes (depending on load order) but if they just add something or remove a specific tag, it will probably be compatible. If they rely on the creature variations and youve deleted them without adding a replacement, their mod will fail, and if you readded the creature variations with changes, their mod should use your modified variations.

[CohentheBarbarian]

hi team.
im having a problem making metal threads, my goal is to have dwarfs be able to have clothes made out of their fave metal cloth.
can anyone see where im going wrong?

it makes thread (too much thread actually), which wont make cloth. it says missing stone thread at the loom.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[OBJECT:REACTION]



   [REACTION:TESTYARN]
   [NAME:test yarn]
   [BUILDING:EXTRACTOR:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:THREAD:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:HAIR][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]
   [SKILL:EXTRACT_STRAND]
   [SKILL_IP:50]

   [REACTION:TESTWOOL]
   [NAME:test wool]
   [BUILDING:EXTRACTOR:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:THREAD:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:WOOL][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]
   [SKILL:EXTRACT_STRAND]
   [SKILL_IP:50]

   [REACTION:TESTTHREAD]
   [NAME:test thread]
   [BUILDING:EXTRACTOR:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:THREAD:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]
   [SKILL:EXTRACT_STRAND]
   [SKILL_IP:50]

[CohentheBarbarian]

hi team.
im having a problem making metal threads, my goal is to have dwarfs be able to have clothes made out of their fave metal cloth.
can anyone see where im going wrong?

it makes thread (too much thread actually), which wont make cloth. it says missing stone thread at the loom.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[OBJECT:REACTION]



   [REACTION:TESTYARN]
   [NAME:test yarn]
   [BUILDING:EXTRACTOR:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:THREAD:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:HAIR][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]
   [SKILL:EXTRACT_STRAND]
   [SKILL_IP:50]

   [REACTION:TESTWOOL]
   [NAME:test wool]
   [BUILDING:EXTRACTOR:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:THREAD:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:WOOL][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]
   [SKILL:EXTRACT_STRAND]
   [SKILL_IP:50]

   [REACTION:TESTTHREAD]
   [NAME:test thread]
   [BUILDING:EXTRACTOR:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:THREAD:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]
   [SKILL:EXTRACT_STRAND]
   [SKILL_IP:50]

DONT PANIC EVERONE!!!
i got it.

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[REACTION:TESTTHREAD]
   [NAME:test thread]
   [BUILDING:EXTRACTOR:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:THREAD:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:COPPER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]
   [SKILL:EXTRACT_STRAND]
   [SKILL_IP:50]

[ArrowheadArcher]

Code: [Select]


entity_dwarfworld

[OBJECT:ENTITY]

entity_default

[CUT_ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]
[CUT_ENTITY:FOREST]
[CUT_ENTITY:PLAINS]
[CUT_ENTITY:EVIL]
[CUT_ENTITY:SKULKING]

From entity_dwarfworld, in my Dwarfworld mod. I keep seeing MOUNTAIN, FOREST, PLAINS, and EVIL entities. In other words, there are still goblins, humans, and elves in worlds, even though their entities are not in use or are being skipped by my mod.