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[Iä! RIAKTOR!]

If I add pack animals and wagon pullers to goblins, generate big world, embark around friendly goblin civ and trade with their caravan, will I buy caged trolls?

You need to make goblins friendly too. Either remove Baby_snatcher tag or add Baby_snatcher to your dwarves (will make you hostile to elf and human civs).

In really big world I have goblin caravans without babysnatcher tweaking. My question was different: will goblins sell trolls or not?

[Shonai_Dweller]

If I add pack animals and wagon pullers to goblins, generate big world, embark around friendly goblin civ and trade with their caravan, will I buy caged trolls?

You need to make goblins friendly too. Either remove Baby_snatcher tag or add Baby_snatcher to your dwarves (will make you hostile to elf and human civs).

In really big world I have goblin caravans without babysnatcher tweaking. My question was different: will goblins sell trolls or not?

No, you don't. You might have an outpost liasion who is a goblin, but without modding, you don't have friendly goblin caravans. So, assuming you are getting actual goblin caravans, then it depends entirely on your mod and what changes have been made to goblins. The answer can only be "maybe".

[Iä! RIAKTOR!]

If I add pack animals and wagon pullers to goblins, generate big world, embark around friendly goblin civ and trade with their caravan, will I buy caged trolls?

You need to make goblins friendly too. Either remove Baby_snatcher tag or add Baby_snatcher to your dwarves (will make you hostile to elf and human civs).

In really big world I have goblin caravans without babysnatcher tweaking. My question was different: will goblins sell trolls or not?

No, you don't. You might have an outpost liasion who is a goblin, but without modding, you don't have friendly goblin caravans. So, assuming you are getting actual goblin caravans, then it depends entirely on your mod and what changes have been made to goblins. The answer can only be "maybe".

I only add [ANIMAL] definition, so goblins use beak dogs as wagon pullers and pack animals. All other stay as in vanilla.

[chipathingy]

I've made a creature from obsidian and gave it dragonfire, but it gets damaged by it.
I added this, but it all appears in the errorlog as an "unrecognised creature token":

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   [SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
      [MULTIPLY_VALUE:15]
      [COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:55000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:57000]
      [SPEC_HEAT:30000]
   [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD]
    [PLUS_MATERIAL:PUS]
      [MELTING_POINT:10000]

This was copied from the dragon's raws.
This is the tissue that the whole creature is made from:

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   [TISSUE:HARD_MAGMA]
      [TISSUE_NAME:obsidian:NP]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:OBSIDIAN]
      [SCARS]
      [HEALING_RATE:100]
      [CONNECTS]
      [FUNCTIONAL]
      [STRUCTURAL]
      [MUSCULAR]
      [VASCULAR:3]
      [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
      [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]

What can I do to fix it?

[bloop_bleep]

Use the tag [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] on the creature. Makes it immune to dragonfire.

[chipathingy]

Use the tag [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] on the creature. Makes it immune to dragonfire.

It does have that... I reckon I know what caused it now! I just assumed it was melting itself. Cheers

[ZM5]

Use the tag [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] on the creature. Makes it immune to dragonfire.

It doesnt, its just an AI switch that makes a creature think its safe to path through dragonfire. Same with [FIREIMMUNE], only for normal fire.

What grants dragonfire immunity are these lines from the dragon raws:
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
      [COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:55000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:57000]
      [SPEC_HEAT:30000]
   [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD]
    [PLUS_MATERIAL:PUS]
      [MELTING_POINT:10000]

Would also need to add [PLUS_MATERIAL] for sweat, tears, etc. other liquid stuff so their melting point is 10000 rather than 55000 - for gases one would use BOILING_POINT:10000 instead. I generally also use fixed temp with the liquids, I noticed for some extracts it just bypasses the MELTING_POINT:10000 stuff and makes superheated spit or the like.

I'd reckon the unrecognized creature token stuff is from the [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD] lines, provided of course the creature doesn't have blood.

[Iä! RIAKTOR!]

Use the tag [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] on the creature. Makes it immune to dragonfire.

It doesnt, its just an AI switch that makes a creature think its safe to path through dragonfire. Same with [FIREIMMUNE], only for normal fire.

What grants dragonfire immunity are these lines from the dragon raws:
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
      [COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:55000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:57000]
      [SPEC_HEAT:30000]
   [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD]
    [PLUS_MATERIAL:PUS]
      [MELTING_POINT:10000]

Would also need to add [PLUS_MATERIAL] for sweat, tears, etc. other liquid stuff so their melting point is 10000 rather than 55000 - for gases one would use BOILING_POINT:10000 instead. I generally also use fixed temp with the liquids, I noticed for some extracts it just bypasses the MELTING_POINT:10000 stuff and makes superheated spit or the like.

I'd reckon the unrecognized creature token stuff is from the [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD] lines, provided of course the creature doesn't have blood.

Will this work for inorganic materials of creature? Example, if I want dragon with bronze scales.

[ZM5]

Use the tag [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] on the creature. Makes it immune to dragonfire.

It doesnt, its just an AI switch that makes a creature think its safe to path through dragonfire. Same with [FIREIMMUNE], only for normal fire.

What grants dragonfire immunity are these lines from the dragon raws:
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
      [COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:55000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:57000]
      [SPEC_HEAT:30000]
   [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD]
    [PLUS_MATERIAL:PUS]
      [MELTING_POINT:10000]

Would also need to add [PLUS_MATERIAL] for sweat, tears, etc. other liquid stuff so their melting point is 10000 rather than 55000 - for gases one would use BOILING_POINT:10000 instead. I generally also use fixed temp with the liquids, I noticed for some extracts it just bypasses the MELTING_POINT:10000 stuff and makes superheated spit or the like.

I'd reckon the unrecognized creature token stuff is from the [SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD] lines, provided of course the creature doesn't have blood.

Will this work for inorganic materials of creature? Example, if I want dragon with bronze scales.

For inorganic materials, I'd say no since its counted as a separate material. You'd need to define a new tissue+material combination within the creature for it to be affected.

[MaxTheFox]

Is there a way to make a creature that spits liquid globs of freezing liquid? MAT_FIXED_TEMP seems wonky and I don't think it does the trick.

[Iä! RIAKTOR!]

Is there a way to make a creature that spits liquid globs of freezing liquid? MAT_FIXED_TEMP seems wonky and I don't think it does the trick.

Melting temperature of the material must be very low, 9800 example.

[Eric Blank]

I've been using this;

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[INORGANIC:FREEZING_WATER_INORGANIC][SPECIAL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SPECIAL_WATER_SPRAY_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL:freezing liquid]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL:freezing liquid]
[TILE:'#']
[NO_STONE_STOCKPILE]
[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
[MELTING_POINT:8990]
[BOILING_POINT:9950]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:9000]
[SPEC_HEAT:100]
[HEATDAM_POINT:0]
[COLDDAM_POINT:0]
[MOLAR_MASS:10]
[SOLID_DENSITY:1000]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:1000]
[SYNDROME]
[SYN_NAME:Hypothermic Shock]
[SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:COLD_IMMUNE]
[SYN_INHALED]
[SYN_CONTACT]
[CE_PAIN:SEV:30:PROB:70:LOCALIZED:RESISTABLE:VASCULAR_ONLY:START:0:END:12:DWF_STRETCH:4]
[CE_NUMBNESS:SEV:30:PROB:70:LOCALIZED:RESISTABLE:VASCULAR_ONLY:START:13:END:25:DWF_STRETCH:4]
[CE_BLISTERS:SEV:50:PROB:70:LOCALIZED:RESISTABLE:VASCULAR_ONLY:START:0:END:12:DWF_STRETCH:4]
[CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION:SEV:100:PROB:10:BP:BY_TYPE:THOUGHT:ALL:BP:BY_TYPE:NERVOUS:ALL:RESISTABLE:START:0:END:25:DWF_STRETCH:4]


It's super-effective, against all known life forms, pretty much. The syndrome is virtually useless, they freeze out of existence anyway.

[Germanicus]

Is there a way to make a Creature that reproduces using other Creatures? I want to make Goblins that kidnap other civilized creatures to reproduce with, ala the Goblin Slayer anime.

I have had success by making them Night Creatures, but I'd prefer if Goblin females didn't exist at all.

Also, is there a way I can keep Goblins from joining other Civs without giving them [UTTERANCES]? If I combine Night Creature and UTTERANCES they seem to stop kidnapping other creatures for mating.

[ZM5]

Is there a way to make a Creature that reproduces using other Creatures? I want to make Goblins that kidnap other civilized creatures to reproduce with, ala the Goblin Slayer anime.

I have had success by making them Night Creatures, but I'd prefer if Goblin females didn't exist at all.

Also, is there a way I can keep Goblins from joining other Civs without giving them [UTTERANCES]? If I combine Night Creature and UTTERANCES they seem to stop kidnapping other creatures for mating.

There isn't currently, unfortunately, especially since night troll behavior only works with "wild" creatures and not civilized ones. For civs it needs both males and females.
For night trolls you can atleast change the caste name, symbol, description and size of the female caste, maybe give it some different properties i.e renaming it to a generic "breeder" which lacks LARGE_PREDATOR. That said they wouldn't be as numerous that way, since iirc with night trolls only one or two spawn to begin with. Maybe they'd appear in the wild still with the proper tokens, but I haven't messed enough with it.

[MaxTheFox]

I've been using this;

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[INORGANIC:FREEZING_WATER_INORGANIC][SPECIAL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SPECIAL_WATER_SPRAY_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL:freezing liquid]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL:freezing liquid]
[TILE:'#']
[NO_STONE_STOCKPILE]
[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
[MELTING_POINT:8990]
[BOILING_POINT:9950]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:9000]
[SPEC_HEAT:100]
[HEATDAM_POINT:0]
[COLDDAM_POINT:0]
[MOLAR_MASS:10]
[SOLID_DENSITY:1000]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:1000]
[SYNDROME]
[SYN_NAME:Hypothermic Shock]
[SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:COLD_IMMUNE]
[SYN_INHALED]
[SYN_CONTACT]
[CE_PAIN:SEV:30:PROB:70:LOCALIZED:RESISTABLE:VASCULAR_ONLY:START:0:END:12:DWF_STRETCH:4]
[CE_NUMBNESS:SEV:30:PROB:70:LOCALIZED:RESISTABLE:VASCULAR_ONLY:START:13:END:25:DWF_STRETCH:4]
[CE_BLISTERS:SEV:50:PROB:70:LOCALIZED:RESISTABLE:VASCULAR_ONLY:START:0:END:12:DWF_STRETCH:4]
[CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION:SEV:100:PROB:10:BP:BY_TYPE:THOUGHT:ALL:BP:BY_TYPE:NERVOUS:ALL:RESISTABLE:START:0:END:25:DWF_STRETCH:4]


It's super-effective, against all known life forms, pretty much. The syndrome is virtually useless, they freeze out of existence anyway.

Doesn't seem to work... I used the raws for water as the template, maybe that's why. Can you provide the SPECIAL_WATER_SPRAY_TEMPLATE?

Nevermind, I tinkered with it a little, lowered the temperatures and all, now it works. Thanks for the idea!