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[UristMcVampire]

Is it possible to make a civ that steals people from other civs and converts them?

[Roses]

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Of course the game could cap it at a lower value like it does for body size, you would just have to check

Sorry for the derail, but this is the first I've read of this. Do you happen to know what the cap for body size is?

I don't remember off the top of my head, I think it was around 100x the size of the vanilla dragon. I know attributes are capped at 5000. Of course these caps are just when they are read from the raws to the game. You can set a creatures size or attributes to be greater than these values in game with dfhack

[Hetsin]

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Of course the game could cap it at a lower value like it does for body size, you would just have to check

Sorry for the derail, but this is the first I've read of this. Do you happen to know what the cap for body size is?

I don't remember off the top of my head, I think it was around 100x the size of the vanilla dragon. I know attributes are capped at 5000. Of course these caps are just when they are read from the raws to the game. You can set a creatures size or attributes to be greater than these values in game with dfhack

Thanks. It'd probably be the 32 bit integer limit in that case: around 2,147,483,647.

[Roses]

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Of course the game could cap it at a lower value like it does for body size, you would just have to check

Sorry for the derail, but this is the first I've read of this. Do you happen to know what the cap for body size is?

I don't remember off the top of my head, I think it was around 100x the size of the vanilla dragon. I know attributes are capped at 5000. Of course these caps are just when they are read from the raws to the game. You can set a creatures size or attributes to be greater than these values in game with dfhack

Thanks. It'd probably be the 32 bit integer limit in that case: around 2,147,483,647.

IIRC it is below that, but again, it's been a long time since I checked. If I get a chance this weekend I'll run some tests

[TomiTapio]

Which domesticated animals would be most likely to destroy stills and workshops?

[brolol.404]

Which domesticated animals would be most likely to destroy stills and workshops?

From a realistic perspective? pig (if by destroy you mean make a giant mess of things left out and ruin tools/loose boards ... not deconstruct a stone building). The rest wouldnt

[Hetsin]

Which domesticated animals would be most likely to destroy stills and workshops?

Horse, cow and cat IMO. They probably wouldn't do it intentionally, but they would be capable. Edit: and goats.

[Eric Blank]

Horses. Sometimes they get bored, and chew on shit or kick it for fun. Or freak out when you're doing something new or doing a trained task in a new environment, and when they panic they can be extremely dangerous to people and property and can and will throw themselves violently at any obstacle between them and wherever the fuck they think they're going. They couldnt hurt something made of stone, though, besides the risk of knocking blocks over.

[scourge728]

Horses sound kind of dumb

[Wannabehero]

Is it possible to make a civ that steals people from other civs and converts them?

If you are referring to SPOUSE_CONVERTER on a civ creature, I think the answer is no, or at least it used to be back in the day.  I personally haven't tried it in quite some time, but years ago this used to the be the case: if creatures were citizens of a civilization, they didn't perform spouse abductions.

However, child abductions do work and will result in the civ having remembers belonging to abducted races. The relevant tag is BABYSNATCHER in the entity definition.  Be aware that this has a major impact on diplomacy in fortress mode, and complicates trade.  See the wiki on it.

[Eric Blank]

Horses sound kind of dumb

Theyre actually extremely intelligent, in terms of herbivores. They're on par with any pig or dog, I would think.
But they're a prey animal. The instinct that says "everything is trying to eat you!" Is so drilled into their head it requires special training in each circumstance  to avoid confusion turning into panic. Plastic bags, unusually large flocks of turkeys, and wearing a hoodie they've never seen you wear before can trigger a panic response.
There's also the problem regarding the two halves of their brain not communicating with one another. So a task that one side of the brain has learned to do still has to be taught to the other half, I'm not even sure if one half of the brain has access to input from both eyes or both ears, because if you sneak a rope up over their neck from one side where it enters the line of sight of the other eye, sometimes they'll startle a bit. So one half of their brain can be perfectly ok with a situation and the other is missing critical information and that can take it's interpretation from confusion to WTF WHERE DID THAT THING COME FROM ITS ALMOST TOUCHING MY THROAT. And when one panics, the other panics.

[EternalCaveDragon]

Horses sound kind of dumb

Theyre actually extremely intelligent, in terms of herbivores. They're on par with any pig or dog, I would think.
But they're a prey animal. The instinct that says "everything is trying to eat you!" Is so drilled into their head it requires special training in each circumstance  to avoid confusion turning into panic. Plastic bags, unusually large flocks of turkeys, and wearing a hoodie they've never seen you wear before can trigger a panic response.
There's also the problem regarding the two halves of their brain not communicating with one another. So a task that one side of the brain has learned to do still has to be taught to the other half, I'm not even sure if one half of the brain has access to input from both eyes or both ears, because if you sneak a rope up over their neck from one side where it enters the line of sight of the other eye, sometimes they'll startle a bit. So one half of their brain can be perfectly ok with a situation and the other is missing critical information and that can take it's interpretation from confusion to WTF WHERE DID THAT THING COME FROM ITS ALMOST TOUCHING MY THROAT. And when one panics, the other panics.

You have it pretty correct. Though either side can (in terms of behavior) be in charge on any given day. One day, the horse you're working with can be nearly bomb proof, the next, something's changed that has them on edge. Which is why you always do your best to work with the horse you've got that day as well as drilling with both sets of inputs. And it's not that the two sides of the brain can't communicate, it's that each eye has two different fields of vision for the most part and they can become used to the habit of working only on one side. That's why there's an emphasis on working on both sides of a horse.

[UristMcVampire]

Is it possible to make a civ that steals people from other civs and converts them?

If you are referring to SPOUSE_CONVERTER on a civ creature, I think the answer is no, or at least it used to be back in the day.  I personally haven't tried it in quite some time, but years ago this used to the be the case: if creatures were citizens of a civilization, they didn't perform spouse abductions.

However, child abductions do work and will result in the civ having remembers belonging to abducted races. The relevant tag is BABYSNATCHER in the entity definition.  Be aware that this has a major impact on diplomacy in fortress mode, and complicates trade.  See the wiki on it.

I want them to actually transform anyone in their civ into another member of their species.

[EternalCaveDragon]

If you are referring to SPOUSE_CONVERTER on a civ creature, I think the answer is no, or at least it used to be back in the day.  I personally haven't tried it in quite some time, but years ago this used to the be the case: if creatures were citizens of a civilization, they didn't perform spouse abductions.

However, child abductions do work and will result in the civ having remembers belonging to abducted races. The relevant tag is BABYSNATCHER in the entity definition.  Be aware that this has a major impact on diplomacy in fortress mode, and complicates trade.  See the wiki on it.

I want them to actually transform anyone in their civ into another member of their species.

Well, one way you could do it is have them make edible items that transform other species into theirs. If the SPOUSE_CONVERTER doesn't work as it would without the civ status, anyway

[brolol.404]

Is it possible to make a civ that steals people from other civs and converts them?

If you are referring to SPOUSE_CONVERTER on a civ creature, I think the answer is no, or at least it used to be back in the day.  I personally haven't tried it in quite some time, but years ago this used to the be the case: if creatures were citizens of a civilization, they didn't perform spouse abductions.

However, child abductions do work and will result in the civ having remembers belonging to abducted races. The relevant tag is BABYSNATCHER in the entity definition.  Be aware that this has a major impact on diplomacy in fortress mode, and complicates trade.  See the wiki on it.

I want them to actually transform anyone in their civ into another member of their species.

You can do this with an attack symdrome.. though they wont really target their own civ members with it... maybe a symdrome on a dust or vapor or liquid spray though...