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[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

yeah I'm getting the same crash when butchering tester 2 in fort mode, and of course arena mode works fine. Have you noticed that anything else using the tissues/materials also crashes the game when butchered, sentient and not sentient

[Valikdu]

All I know is that butchering sentients that contain non-local globs/meat (but not bones) will crash the game or create unknown frozen substance. These BDPs are made specifically to avoid that, so...

[Herodian]

Folks, does anyone know if [SKILL_LEARN_RATES:{percentage}] applied to all skills for a certain caste overrides specific [SKILL_LEARN_RATE]s set for that caste?

[Putnam]

the second one overrides the first

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

All I know is that butchering sentients that contain non-local globs/meat (but not bones) will crash the game or create unknown frozen substance. These BDPs are made specifically to avoid that, so...

I might have to do some testing with my generic material setup, and see if I can convert yours into my setup and see if I get the crash still. might take be a few days.

[Valikdu]

I've made it work by making ALL the sapient creatures' materials locally-declared.

Well... I hope that there's still some speed gain from this.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I've made it work by making ALL the sapient creatures' materials locally-declared.

Well... I hope that there's still some speed gain from this.

I think cutting down on a majority of animal materials will speed it up a lot, RNG and Plants will eat up quite a bit still, but that's something you don't have much control over (RNG is RNG after all, and Plants (food and the like) need to be unique to function correctly. Wood, Leaves, and other misc unused materials can probably be generalized.

But if my Generic Material framework works without crashes then I'll see what I can do to help you get that working for FiM, might need to make some custom features in it but should be doable if it works for me.

[Valikdu]

Just found out that using INORGANIC materials in tissues spoils the entire caste, as well. I think.
no, that's wrong.

[Putnam]

Just found out that using INORGANIC materials in tissues spoils the entire caste, as well. I think.

define "spoils"

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I think he's just got the generic and tissue stuff too complicated that things are crossing wires and being unhappy

[Valikdu]

Mhm... I have a new hypothesis.

Maybe if you declare materials or tissues with same names, inside various castes, several times, it stops working.

It still works I have 2 test-castes with the same materials and tissues, but if I make 5, then literally everything turns into forgotten beast extracts and unknown substances.
actually no, it will probably turn into forgotten beast extract chops anyway after one repeat.

If it's just one kind of tissue or material, then it's just that one that's affected.

[UPD] Everything's okay if you make just one declaration, using any number of [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE]. So... I'm gonna have to look though all the creatures and look for multi-declarations, aren't I.

[P.S.] Elsewhere-declared globs in intelligent creatures still don't work, that's a different problem. I had an intelligent and an unintelligent test-caste with literally the same composition (using elsewhere-declared materials), differing only in [INTELLIGENT], butchered. Second was OK, first was a pile of BS.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

I figured the re adding of the same tissue I'd would cause issues just I had. To shift through a lot of your raws

[Putnam]

Mhm... I have a new hypothesis.

Maybe if you declare materials or tissues with same names, inside various castes, several times, it stops working.

i could've told you that; tissues and materials are creature-level, not caste level; you can see how to work around this in fortbent, which has blood colors for each caste

[DaStormDragon]

Is there a way (probably using dfhack) to make an interaction need to be performed regularly or it triggers a syndrome?

[Eric Blank]

I cant think of a good way to do it, but you could have a syndrome that is in effect at all times, and the interaction gives immunity to its symptoms. Like the syndrome causes nonstop nausea, and the interaction gives the creature the nonausea tag. But im not sure how that would turn out, like the syndrome symptoms could continue to be in effect even though the interaction has been run, until something slaps the critter to make it rethink its wound status.