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[Eagle_eye]

Basically, I'm looking for a game along the lines of civlization: building an empire, researching tech, fighting enemy civilizations and so on, just in a sandbox format. No ultimate goal, no way to win, only to postpone losing. Something similar to EUIII or any of those paradox games, but more focused on developing the empire than on warfare. Anyone know of anything like this?

[nenjin]

Anno? That's closer to mercantilism than nation building, but I think it hits all those points in one way or another.

[SealyStar]

Dwarf Fortress?
But I see what you mean. Something like DF, but focused on macro- instead of micro-management, basically?

[MonkeyHead]

Blatant "LP Link in sig plug..."

[Eagle_eye]

EDIT: I'm stupid

[Korbac]

uh...what? I have no LP's in my sig, and I haven't updated the mod in about a year. I should probably remove it,  but you shouldn't assume the worst of people.

He was referring to his own LP of MOO3. 

[Eagle_eye]

oh lol.. sorry about that. :\

By the way, your mod bundle is on megaupload.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Victoria 2? That's much more politically indepth than EU3. I guess pretty much any other Paradox game, assuming you don't have them, would be a good start. Crusader Kings II is good.

I'm not really sure. Personally I don't mind a winnable goal. Alpha Centuri is one of favourite 4X games because it balanced sandbox and goal based gameplay.

[aaron32]

I'd say Aurora 4X, It's a great sandbox game. No goals (If I recall correctly) And you can make up one if you want.

Linkedy Link: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php

[BuriBuriZaemon]

What about X series??

[Bremen]

I'd say Aurora 4X, It's a great sandbox game. No goals (If I recall correctly) And you can make up one if you want.

Linkedy Link: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php

Yeah, if the interface doesn't turn you off Aurora would definitely seem to offer you what you want. About the only reason I don't play it to the exclusion of all else is it doesn't have a goal or a way to win, so I eventually get bored 

[Kanil]

Sounds like you might enjoy Aurora. Space is effectively infinite, and it creates new NPC opponents scaled to your tech level as you explore, so there's always something more out there to find. The game is more focused on combat and ship design than empire building, but there's enough going on to probably satisfy you. Hell, you've even played Dwarf Fortress so you might be willing to tolerate it's overly complex and sometimes hostile interface! Wonderful game, really.

[Dariush]

If there's no way to win, the game becomes theoretically infinite, so developers won't be able to have regular new content in your game, so the game becomes boring. Just imagine how would Civilization look if you remove the 2050 cap. Sure, you'll be able to steamroll opponents sooner or later, but then what? There would be no new technologies, only tons of micromanagement for all the cities and no clear goal remaining.

[snelg]

Distant worlds feels a little like EU3 in space in my opinion. They're actually quite different, pehaps it's just the realtime thing?