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[Loud Whispers]

Zombies, Necromancers, Lycans and Vampires. Team undead science go!
(Proving myths true so your Dwarves can sleep at day, knowing they only have a 95% chance of being found drained of all blood in the morning. If you have a hypothesis, I or another will try to test it, as long as you say it).

Current focus: Lycans

• Do were-creature corpses that get heavily mutilated animate and rejuvenate every lunar cycle, effectively cloning themselves?

-NOPE. Toady fixed it, and fixed it well (sadly). Lycan zombies are no longer possible, their syndrome is lost upon death.

• Do were-creatures still pass on syndromes to zombies? Do were-creature zombies still pass on their syndromes to live Dwarves?

-NOPE. For above reasons.

• What differences can be noted on friendly Lycans when they change forms? Attributes? Feelings? Loyalty?

-TA DA!

• Attribute wise, anything gained in one change carries onto the next, which has led to wonderful situations where Lycans who frequently suffer damage heal quicker, become tougher and so on become nearly indestructible when in their animal form, to the point where they can take several hits to the head with masterwork steel bolts and still live.
• Loyalty wise, they are treated as berserk when changed. They will attack everything that is not a Lycan of it's own kind when transformed. Killing a were-civet of your own entity does not trigger loyalty cascades.
• Wrestling done between Dwarves and WereDwarves can sometimes carry over after the change back. This WILL cause a loyalty cascade, but is a rare occurrence.

How do the actions done in Lycan form affect Lycans in Dwarf form? Do killings of other Dwarves cause unhappiness thoughts in Dwarves? What of justice and other normal repercussions of killing Dwarves, including tragedy prone targets?

• One Dwarf recently killed it's spouse whilst transformed, it is noted that before it killed it's spouse it was very unhappy (as a result of serious injury received). After killing it's spouse, the Were-civet showed no signs of unhappiness, and when transformed back, the Dwarf cared about nothing anymore. Lycan Dwarves appear to be almost immune to happiness bombs as long as they transform into lycan form quickly enough.
• Lycan kills are immune to justice. Kills made by lycans are immune to justice. Were creatures who are the Fortress guard are immune to justice.

• Are there any effective methods of infecting Dwarves that do not result in certain death of at least one?

-The casualties are bothersome. Otherwise, no. Just add more peasants, it works fine.

• Testing that could be lethal to live were-creatures is being postponed until more than one can be forged.

Lethal tests pending:

• Do were-creatures never die of starvation or dehydration?

True. Although in Dwarf were creatures, they can sometimes get unhappy about it. Were creatures still drink and eat despite never dying of the lack of either - and so do not have the weakness of vampires in that they don't slow down due to lack of alcohol.

• Weaponization. How effective would it be?

-Apparently, very.¹
-Applications pending.

Spoiler: Dwarf cryogenics (pre-cannibalized thread) (click to show/hide)

Dwarf Cryogenics program : Complete

So a while back I remember ranting on about dumping dead things down graveyards (ravens I think D:<), and I happened to discover this rather peculiar effect. On how to preserve Dwarven bodies, and make yourself feel like an undertaker... In the Dwarven sense.
^{And couldn't be bothered to make a thread for it until now really :p}


Step 1:

Build yourself your graveyard cryogenics laboratory, deep in the cool depths of the Earths.
^{*Dramatic statues of Dwarven gods optional.}

Step 2:
Dump your sleeping Dwarf carefully into the pod (it is wise that you make sure the Dwarf is dead before sealing the Dwarf in - wouldn't want unfortunate accidents now would we?)

Step 3:
Through dubious means of necromancy or unknown evil forces, bring your dead slumbering Dwarf back to life, and hey presto, after several fort years:

Not a single scratch, no rotting skin, flesh or whatever. Pure, unblemished Dwarf straight from the afterlife!

Look! She's even having a pleasant conversation with the other Dwarves!

Now for our satisfied customers!

MOVING ON.

We would like to remind you that the bodies will be stored in the state they arrived.

*However*

Thanks to new processes, called the flow of time, even old wounds can heal!

Just ask the local Cryo-Kobold Stroloasomthing...



She accidentally landed on some bolts, and bonked her poor head on a crossbow! Rather unfortunate. So we put her body in a pod, let the wounds heal and maybe some day we'll find out how to put splints on brains. They're just so squidgy, and I'm all out of pig tail fiber tape...

So forgo your receptacles, sarcophagi and useless coffins - and embrace the wonderful healing effects of time! And voodoo!

If you're not convinced, ask Trulbin, a Kobold volunteer who arrived with multiple wounds - we have yet to find out how she landed on so many of our Dwarves's weapons!



A very satisfied customer I might say.

Also, zombies heal.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Good job! Now figure out how to transform them into useful members of society, or at least whatever state they were in when they died. (Some modding required.)

[Asra]

I take it you still need a Terrifying Biome to enact this scientific endeavor, right? At least you don't have to worry about any upset ghosts customers coming back and suing you, right?

[Loud Whispers]

Good job! Now figure out how to transform them into useful members of society, or at least whatever state they were in when they died. (Some modding required.)

I might try that, because you could technically make an interaction that brings things back to life, without actually making them undead.
As for making them useful... Unfortunately a result of the cryo-stasis is that the Dwarves in question end up a bit grumpy when woken up, so it's best to let them sleep.

Future objectives:

• Afterlife science.
• Cloning a were-civet corpse.

CLONE IT ALL!!!

I take it you still need a Terrifying Biome to enact this scientific endeavor, right? At least you don't have to worry about any upset ghosts customers coming back and suing you, right?

Slabs. Lots and lots of slabs.

[Kofthefens]

Any specific reason for a were-civet?

[Loud Whispers]

Any specific reason for a were-civet?

Managed to infect two Dwarves with lycanthropy from my one and only captured were-creature, but one of the two Dwarves died. I'm going to try clone the one that died, and do sciencey stuff with the other.
Also, civets are pretty awesome.

[Girlinhat]

Is a healed zombie stronger than a regular zombie?

[Corai]

How much do I have to pay for the two kobolds, four or six socks?

[Urist Da Vinci]

I thought from the thread title that this would be similar to the "frozen in time" state that falling creatures could get from a rare bug. I actually can't tell if the OP is just humor, or if there is an actual discovery in there. Could someone please enlighten me?

[Asra]

I thought from the thread title that this would be similar to the "frozen in time" state that falling creatures could get from a rare bug. I actually can't tell if the OP is just humor, or if there is an actual discovery in there. Could someone please enlighten me?

The Undead never decay and can heal their own wounds so their bodies technically last forever..

[Mudcrab]

Would be cool if there was an option to research the secrets of necromancy and if you did the mountainhomes would abandon you, but youd have loads of tireless workers who can heal up after being brutally attacked

[Loud Whispers]

Is a healed zombie stronger than a regular zombie?

Dunno, I don't have a lot of completely unharmed corpses to test with, which is why I'm going to start trying to clone the were-civet.

How much do I have to pay for the two kobolds, four or six socks?

50 Brass skulls. No more, no less.

I thought from the thread title that this would be similar to the "frozen in time" state that falling creatures could get from a rare bug. I actually can't tell if the OP is just humor, or if there is an actual discovery in there. Could someone please enlighten me?

Corpses decay, eventually into nothing but bones. Essentially this does freeze their corpse in time, stopping them from ever decaying, and for some reason healing skin deep wounds.

Would be cool if there was an option to research the secrets of necromancy and if you did the mountainhomes would abandon you, but youd have loads of tireless workers who can heal up after being brutally attacked

But the King is a necromancer! Lying hypocrites...

[silhouette]

I read the title as Dwarf Cybernetics.

I am slightly dissapointed.

[Zinc23]

Cloning?  Does that mean giving a zombie lycanthropy, or what?  I must learn!

[Loud Whispers]

I read the title as Dwarf Cybernetics.

I am slightly dissapointed.

Sorry to disappoint, but voodoo unfortunately doesn't cover robotics.

We can wait...

Cloning?  Does that mean giving a zombie lycanthropy, or what?  I must learn!

Lycanthropy can't be passed onto zombies, but if you recover (or fail to recover) the corpse of a lycanthrope and resurrect it - you can chop off both it's hands, resurrect those and wait for the full moon. Once that happens, you now have three fully grown corpses, with which you can begin the process anew.