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[Putnam]

"Ideal" is subjective. For FPS, you probably want a small or medium region.

600 years? 100 years is best for me. Keeps things interesting for adventure mode AND dwarf mode. 200 would be better for secrets and curses and such.

[crazz2323]

So how does going through the years effect what will be around when you stop? For example, does stopping earlier increase the chances of more races (good and bad) So would you say its not recommended to let it go till the end? I like a challenge and don't want easy mode

[Deon]

The earlier you stop, the less interesting events is there (which you won't normally see in the fortress mode). The longer you go, the less beasts/megabeasts are there.

[crazz2323]

Yeah, I am playing fortress mode so stopping earlier then would make things more interesting I assume?

One more question, of the 4 or so worlds I generated stopping at 650 years and even this last one stopping at the default end year, both large or medium regions, I noticed I never see any evil races listed as neighbors when looking for an embark site, It seems like the evil races are disabled or something.. I have not changed anything, just generating a new world with advanced parameters and hitting enter... is there something I should be doing? So, I never see the following (red line means they are not present right?): Goblins, Void Dwellers, Kensari, Serpent folk, Merfolk, Fallen. I do see an occasional tower. I am scrolling around the region looking to see if any location has any of them. Why is this? Seems the game will not be very interesting if there are no bad guys... Am I missing something here?

[Trapezohedron]

Red line marks hostility. Lack of civs being listed in the... list means that other civs cannot access your civ. Dwarves can always access your civ, so you have an annual source of materials.

And towers are necromancer towers. They're... pretty fun, especially with all the unique secrets available.

[crazz2323]

Ah OK that makes more sense thank you!

[Tirion]

Kensari tend to die off fairly early, in the 200s at best. May be their complete inability to speak, they don't even have [UTTERANCES], so everyone is always hostile to them? Or maybe they breed to slowly, or have shitty equipment? Dunno how that works during worldgen.

Also, currently all secrets require [CAN_SPEAK], which discriminates against a few races-coincidentally, those that tend to go extinct.

And I generally go with a 250 year history, with 100 megabeast and 100 semimegabeast lairs. They often begin breeding, making it easier to for example capture an Ape King to set up an unlimited Blood Ape farm.

EDIT: for some reason, Ape King doesn't use it's Blood Ape making ability in the arena. Would someone please look into it?
EDIT2: he just summoned one. It looks like they are quite reluctant to use the ability, might be the range of 1. And funnily, the summoned blood apes are on the same side they were.

[Catsup]

im experiencing an issue with some sites that seem to reduce my game's fps to near 0 for half a minute or so every turn with this mod that i never had with vanilla, it seems to be a bug.

It first happened when i was camping inside a werebeast's lair and waiting for it to transform, after i continuously lived in the lair just sleeping and eating my game seemed to lose alot of fps and one day the fps dropped to near 0 whenever i tried to move, and the issue went away after i slowly moved away from the site and waited 1 hour elsewhere.

This bug happened again when i was trying to move towards a cave site, and seemed to stop if i move away from the site, but its so bad that it makes the site otherwise inaccessible.


Also i tried using a napped pick to dig directly down and into hell, but for some reason it wouldnt let me dig soil, is there a different tool used for digging soil with this mod?

[Nat]

another question then, is there a guide somewhere for all the new metals and races and creatures that were added with this mod? i hate discovering myself, and it took quite a long time for me to realize demoniac was the weakest vampire and that cobalt was as weak as copper.

I went and looked up the numbers on all the metals in 5.23. I think all this is still true in the new version, but I haven't checked yet.

Note that my civilization was The Axes of Death and I tend to disregard everything that's worse than Steel, and my opinions are somewhat biased because of that.

Spoiler: METALS (click to show/hide)

Sharpness (Axes!) from best to worst:
Vulcanite > Adamantine > Bloodsteel > Titanite/Mithril > Voidsteel > Steel > Bronze/Black Bronze > Iron > Cobalt > Copper
Moonsilver is a weird one, I don't think it has a value for sharpness, but I've been chopped up by it in adventure mode.

Armor (Based this order off impact yield and shear yield.) From best to worst:
Vulcanite/Adamantine > Mithril > Bloodsteel/Voidsteel > Titanite/Steel

Weight (Compared to Steel)
Silver is still the heaviest metal, about 25% heavier than Steel.
Vulcanite is about 20% heavier than steel.
Bloodsteel and voidsteel are about 5% heavier than steel.
Moonsilver is the same weight as steel.
Titanite is about 1/2 the weight of Steel.
Mithril and adamantine are about 1/3 the weight of Steel.
I think everything else is roughly the same weight as Steel, but who cares it's junk for making furniture.

Notes and opinions:
Mithril, bloodsteel, vulcanite, titanite, moonsilver are all made in the deep forge. Deep forge is like a magma furnace, I tend to put the magma square under the top centre tile. You can't build one until you find some magma.

Titanite ores show up as economic stones, not metal ores. The ones I know of are Anatase, Ilmenite, Meteorite, Rutile, Sphene.

Every awesome new metal except titanite requires flux. I think there's a couple new types of flux stones... fluorspar might be a new flux stone? There's a few different types of marble, although one isn't a flux. It might be easiest to try and embark on a location with a flux layer.

The two main differences between bloodsteel and voidsteel is bloodsteel is sharper and bloodsteel requires bauxite whereas voidsteel requires obsidian. So which one you use probably depends on whether or not you have any bauxite.

Titanite armor doesn't look like anything special compared to Steel, but it's half the weight, which can be a big help if you've got weaklings in your army, or want to armour up weakling civilians to stop them whining about their clothes rotting.

Mithril can be harder to get than adamantine, since you need both silver and aluminium. I've found maps where I only had access to ~150 units of aluminium, even when I set mineral frequency to 100.

Moonsilver sounds like something an elf would use so I haven't touched it.

Cobalt is only really good for making metal furniture that's blue. Which is kind of cool, if you like certain rooms to be a particular colour.

Feel free to let me know if I'm wrong about anything, or even if you just disagree with my opinions.

Don't know too much about the new creatures, except necromages, because I've spent a few game years trying to deal with a bunch of them.

Spoiler: NECROMAGES (click to show/hide)

Necromages sneak around, like goblin ambushers. They don't seem to be revealed by things bumping into them. They don't reveal themselves when they cast spells. They can be caught by cage traps.

Necromages raise the dead. I think this is the same as necromancers in vanilla.

Necromages have a spell that paralyses a target. It's only a very short duration, but it's brutal combined with any zombies or skeletons it's raised, because unconscious dwarves can't defend themselves.

Necromages have another spell that causes a Scarab beetle to burst out of a dead body. This is AWESOME. Scarabs are slightly buggy (ha ha). I think it's something to do with the Scarab being spawned at your fortress, but they are Friendly, which means they will fight the Necromage's zombies and skeletons. Scarabs show up in the creature list as Scarab Scarab. Scarabs seem to disappear when a fort is loaded.

[Catsup]

i also have a question about world generation for this mod. The world_gen.txt that came with this mod seems to be much bigger than any world gen param file i ever seen before, and i replaced it with my own world gen file since i have some custom settings for adventure mode. Should i have kept the original mod's world gen file and instead modified it in-game? is only the "eldorado" param set suitable for this mod or are all param sets ok?

[Deon]

Thanks for the info, I am sure many people will find it useful. I will add metal info to the manual next time I update it, Nat.

You seem to forget that there're no elves in this mod though, and elves-like creatures all use wood for weapons/armor! So Moonsilver is legit. It's the best metal vs undead, currently vs Fallen race only, but I will add it to the weakness list of glacier wights and necromage zombies as well for the next update.

Necromages are also revealed by creatures with high observer skill, like any type of necromancer.

i also have a question about world generation for this mod. The world_gen.txt that came with this mod seems to be much bigger than any world gen param file i ever seen before, and i replaced it with my own world gen file since i have some custom settings for adventure mode. Should i have kept the original mod's world gen file and instead modified it in-game? is only the "eldorado" param set suitable for this mod or are all param sets ok?

Yeah, the world_gen.txt is only that big because it has a custom North America map called "Eldorado". Also don't forget to remove vanilla interactions/curses/secrets when you play with this mod. Evil areas are not supposed to have zombies (only soulless husks), and glaciers have wights, and all new custom necromancer types also need free space to be generated, vampires too etc.

[Trapezohedron]

Aren't the void dwellers/voidwalkers also resistant to everything else except moonsilver?

That makes it very useful late game, if you can get your hands on enough supplies for it.

[Tirion]

Aren't the void dwellers/voidwalkers also resistant to everything else except moonsilver?

That makes it very useful late game, if you can get your hands on enough supplies for it.

I think their kryptonite is Voidsteel.

[Deon]

No, it's moonsilver too.

[Tirion]

Deon, is there any reason Kensari don't have [CAN_SPEAK]? They are hostile no matter what, thanks to [BABYSNATCHER] in their entity file, but this way everyone gangs up on them in worldgen.