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[lionstar]

I'm going to have to pick a new Toady One.

[lionstar]

At last:

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The crowd begins stomping their feet as the gladiators enter the arena!
R O U N D  1
>> RAGNAR THREE HITS SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
ARMOK moves swiftly around RAGNAR THREE HITS.
ARMOK raises his MYSTIC GIANT SMASHER overhead and makes a devastating attack.
ARMOK looks to seriously damage RAGNAR THREE HITS's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
Massive shot caves in RAGNAR THREE HITS's chest!  (+645 Damage)
 
RAGNAR THREE HITS screams in agony as the strike causes him to drop his weapon!
RAGNAR THREE HITS glances at some of the larger wounds on his body!!
R O U N D  2
RAGNAR THREE HITS reaches down and grabs his WYRMWOOD GIANT CHOPPER from off the ground!
RAGNAR THREE HITS leaps swiftly around ARMOK.
RAGNAR THREE HITS swings his WYRMWOOD GIANT CHOPPER toward ARMOK with uncanny speed.
RAGNAR THREE HITS is aiming at ARMOK's head.
RAGNAR THREE HITS looks to seriously damage ARMOK's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
Cruel slash to the foot goes through flesh and bone like a hot knife through butter!  (+594 Damage)
 
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 4
ARMOK pauses for a moment to catch his breath.
ARMOK is bleeding from multiple flesh wounds!!
R O U N D  3
ARMOK holding off until the perfect opening lashes out with his MYSTIC GIANT SMASHER.
ARMOK looks to seriously damage RAGNAR THREE HITS's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
ARMOK's MYSTIC GIANT SMASHER tastes victory and inflicts magnificent damage on RAGNAR THREE HITS's knee!  (+576 Damage)
RAGNAR THREE HITS appears very concerned with his physical state!!!
ARMOK brings his weapon down only to be blocked by the Enforcer!
The victorious gladiator raises a clenched fist toward the sky!
The fight lasted 25 seconds!

[Jelle]

Oh yeah, took me a long time to beat ragnar as well. With those two hand rages it's usually a matter of getting lucky.

Aegis, my current top fighter, is currently doing quite well in arena challenges. She's now on tier 3's El Commandante.
Whereas my other two seem to be struggling a bit. Nightmare is a hurdle for sure and always manages to outlast Sagaris, wich is strange since she's a defensive oriented urk with decent stamina.
My other fighter Glaive can't seem to bust Panzer. He's been a bit of a let down really, gets dominated so easily.

On another note, with all her equipment Aegis now has a grand total of 280 defense. 

[Jelle]

Flawless victory! No damage taken. 

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The fallen remains of gladiators litters the arena sands!
R O U N D  1
>> EL COMANDANTE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> AEGIS SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
EL COMANDANTE sneaks in an off handed strike.
EL COMANDANTE attacks AEGIS and seeks to crush her.
EL COMANDANTE barely misses.
>> AEGIS SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 5
EL COMANDANTE circles AEGIS like a starved vulture, looking for an opening.
EL COMANDANTE hesitates before striking out with his SPITE-FORGED CESTUS.
EL COMANDANTE's attack is parried away and fails to hit its mark.
EL COMANDANTE clashes with AEGIS and attempts to maim her.
EL COMANDANTE looks on in astonishment as his SPITE-FORGED CESTUS is knocked away.
AEGIS's CRAFTED BROAD SWORD transforms into a whirlwind of furious strikes.
AEGIS looks to hamstring EL COMANDANTE!  (-Hamstring-)
AEGIS connects with her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD inflicting massive damage!  (+280 Damage)
 
EL COMANDANTE hits the ground hard after that last hit!
EL COMANDANTE looks at his body and notices he has taken a few hits!
R O U N D  2
EL COMANDANTE gets back up!
EL COMANDANTE jabs with his SPITE-FORGED CESTUS and nearly loses his footing.
AEGIS guides the attack into the ground.
EL COMANDANTE tries to kill AEGIS with his URKEN SWORD.
AEGIS guides the attack into the ground.
AEGIS seeks to pierce EL COMANDANTE.
Freakish hit to the back of the arm brings a shrill cry of pain and anguish that echoes throughout the arena!  (+123 Damage)
 
R O U N D  3
EL COMANDANTE is no longer affected by Hamstring
EL COMANDANTE sneaks in an off handed strike.
EL COMANDANTE tries to stab AEGIS with his SPITE-FORGED CESTUS.
EL COMANDANTE whispers something under his breath after the blocked attack.
EL COMANDANTE clashes with AEGIS and seeks to stick her.
EL COMANDANTE's SPITE-FORGED CESTUS is intercepted with a well placed block.
EL COMANDANTE jabs at AEGIS with his URKEN SWORD.
AEGIS kicks EL COMANDANTE in the chest knocking him out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
AEGIS moves off a parry and goes for a cutting attack with her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD.
Shot punctures the lower back and just misses the kidney!  (+58 Damage)
R O U N D  4
EL COMANDANTE is becoming noticeably weaker from blood loss!!!
EL COMANDANTE dances quickly around his adversary.
EL COMANDANTE looks to hurt AEGIS.
EL COMANDANTE's attack is parried away and fails to hit its mark.
EL COMANDANTE springs around the arena in hopes of action.
EL COMANDANTE attempts a poorly planned attack with his URKEN SWORD.
EL COMANDANTE whispers something under his breath after the blocked attack.
EL COMANDANTE hops swiftly around the arena.
EL COMANDANTE makes an off handed attack.
EL COMANDANTE throws an uncertain punch toward his opponent.
EL COMANDANTE yells in frustration as his weapon is knocked away.
AEGIS skips swiftly around her enemy.
AEGIS decides to attack with the other hand.
AEGIS slams her BONE-IRON WALL SHIELD at EL COMANDANTE.
EL COMANDANTE kicks AEGIS in the chest knocking her out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
R O U N D  5
EL COMANDANTE's wounds continue to bleed!!!
EL COMANDANTE bounces quickly around AEGIS.
EL COMANDANTE attempts to maim his opponent.
AEGIS kicks EL COMANDANTE in the chest knocking him out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
EL COMANDANTE collides with AEGIS and seeks to puncture his enemy.
AEGIS redirects the attack into the air.
EL COMANDANTE pauses for a moment to catch his breath.
EL COMANDANTE tries to cut through AEGIS with his URKEN SWORD.
EL COMANDANTE jumps back after his attack is deftly parried.
AEGIS leaps back, then charges forward with her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD stabbing brutally.
AEGIS is aiming at EL COMANDANTE's main hand.
Colossal strike to the back of the head. AEGIS's weapon can be seen protruding out of the forehead...must have missed vital areas of the brain!  (+87 Damage)
 
Resisted Stun Effect!
EL COMANDANTE has taken some heavy damage from this fight!!
AEGIS leaps forward making a powerful slash with her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD.
Cruel slash to the foot goes through flesh and bone like a hot knife through butter!  (+245 Damage)
 
EL COMANDANTE is bleeding very badly from several wounds!!!
R O U N D  6
EL COMANDANTE makes a feeble slash with his URKEN SWORD.
EL COMANDANTE aims for AEGIS's torso
EL COMANDANTE yells in frustration as his weapon is knocked away.
EL COMANDANTE springs hastily to action.
EL COMANDANTE makes a feeble slash with his URKEN SWORD.
EL COMANDANTE looks on in astonishment as his URKEN SWORD is knocked away.
EL COMANDANTE makes a direct attack with his URKEN SWORD.
AEGIS redirects the attack into the air.
AEGIS pauses for a moment to catch her breath.
AEGIS drives towards EL COMANDANTE and attempts to pummel her enemy.
EL COMANDANTE kicks AEGIS in the chest knocking her out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
E N D  O F  M I N U T E  1
AEGIS is beating EL COMANDANTE!
R O U N D  7
EL COMANDANTE bounces swiftly around the arena.
EL COMANDANTE sneaks in an off handed strike.
EL COMANDANTE seeks to slice AEGIS with his SPITE-FORGED CESTUS.
EL COMANDANTE yells in frustration as his weapon is knocked away.
EL COMANDANTE whips around with his off hand.
EL COMANDANTE throws an uncertain punch toward his opponent.
EL COMANDANTE jumps back after his attack is deftly parried.
EL COMANDANTE leaps hurriedly to action.
EL COMANDANTE makes an off handed attack.
EL COMANDANTE makes a meager attack with his SPITE-FORGED CESTUS.
EL COMANDANTE readies his signature move!  (-Signature Move-)
AEGIS blocks the attack.
AEGIS attempts to flatten EL COMANDANTE with her BONE-IRON WALL SHIELD.
AEGIS tries to fake EL COMANDANTE out with a few twirls of her weapon!  (-Feint-)
AEGIS lands a strike on EL COMANDANTE's chin inflicting ample wounds!  (+44 Damage)
R O U N D  8
EL COMANDANTE drives towards AEGIS and attempts to bash her.
EL COMANDANTE is aiming at AEGIS's midsection.
AEGIS kicks EL COMANDANTE in the chest knocking him out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
AEGIS bounces around the arena in hopes of action.
AEGIS sneaks in an off handed strike.
AEGIS charges at EL COMANDANTE and looks to squash him.
AEGIS tries to fake EL COMANDANTE out with a few twirls of her weapon!  (-Feint-)
Sparks fly as EL COMANDANTE's armour deflects the strike!
Fatigue weighs EL COMANDANTE down, slowing his attacks.
R O U N D  9
EL COMANDANTE's wounds continue to bleed!!!
EL COMANDANTE shuffles hurriedly about.
EL COMANDANTE makes a meager attack with his SPITE-FORGED CESTUS.
With what appears to be a parry of some sort, AEGIS thwarts EL COMANDANTE's attack.
EL COMANDANTE shuffles hurriedly to action.
EL COMANDANTE seeks to stick his opponent.
The crowd cheers as AEGIS redirects the attack into the arena wall.
EL COMANDANTE whips around with a savage punch.
AEGIS kicks EL COMANDANTE in the chest knocking him out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
AEGIS seeks to crush EL COMANDANTE with her BONE-IRON WALL SHIELD.
AEGIS tries to fake EL COMANDANTE out with a few twirls of her weapon!  (-Feint-)
AEGIS lands a strike on EL COMANDANTE's jaw causing moderate wounds!  (+44 Damage)
EL COMANDANTE begins to plea for his worthless life and after a moment of thought AEGIS spits on the pitiful fool and walks away!
A few talent scouts jot down a couple of things!
The fight lasted 1 minute & 25 seconds!

[lionstar]

What a way to introduce Armok into the Legends bracket.

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Both warriors stare at one another before taking their positions!
R O U N D  1
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> LAIVENDUR SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
ARMOK skips quickly around his adversary.
ARMOK moves towards LAIVENDUR and looks to hurt him.
ARMOK looks to seriously damage LAIVENDUR's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
ARMOK connects with his MYSTIC GIANT SMASHER causing cyclopean wounds!  (+404 Damage)
 
LAIVENDUR watches as the ground comes rushing up to meet him after the wicked strike!
LAIVENDUR has minor cuts and bruises on his body!
R O U N D  2
LAIVENDUR almost gets up onto his feet, but gets kicked back down!
ARMOK circles LAIVENDUR like a starved vulture, looking for an opening.
ARMOK's MYSTIC GIANT SMASHER becomes a moving wall of steel and death as he charges forward.
Incredible blast turns LAIVENDUR's head into a red spray!  (+780 Damage)
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 3
ARMOK pauses for a moment to catch his breath.
LAIVENDUR appears very concerned with his physical state!!!
ARMOK kicks LAIVENDUR in the head right before ripping it off and adding it to his collection!
 
Some of the other gladiators in the arena begin to sweat!
The fight lasted 21 seconds!
Ding! Armok is now level 30!

That guy somehow had better stats than Armok in everything but size and chi.


EDIT: Lots of "perfect" glads here. When there are so many people dual wielding flails and maces and hitting 300s at high speed, what's the point of 2h rage?
Also I hate Tiny Avenger. Can't hit him at all.

[lionstar]

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R O U N D  1
>> THE URK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
ARMOK dances hastily about.
ARMOK sees red and charges in.
Massive shot caves in THE URK's chest!  (+183 Damage)
 
THE URK drops to one knee after the shot!
THE URK looks at his body and notices he has taken a few hits!
THE URK moves around on the ground looking for an opening to strike.
THE URK seeks to bash ARMOK with his WORN CRUSHER.
THE URK smiles after the beastly hit to ARMOK's bicep!  (+157 Damage)
 
ARMOK cringes as his weapon drops to the ground after the strike!
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 3
R O U N D  2
THE URK gets stepped on as he tries to stand!
ARMOK tries to stop his bleeding!!!
ARMOK springs quickly to action.
ARMOK uses his FIST to strike furiously at THE URK.
Blast to the hand sends fingers flying in several different directions!  (+195 Damage)
ARMOK takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
THE URK takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
THE URK can't take much more of this beating!!!
THE URK readies a strike from the ground.
THE URK storms ARMOK and attempts to squash his opponent.
THE URK almost connects with ARMOK but misses by inches.
R O U N D  3
THE URK gets stepped on as he tries to stand!
ARMOK tries to flatten his adversary.
ARMOK looks to seriously damage THE URK's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
ARMOK's attack lands on THE URK's cheek causing gigantic damage!  (+326 Damage)
 
ARMOK spits on the pathetic remains of THE URK!

Armok's punches did more damage than his weapon :/


EDIT: And I had a strategy all planned for Armok to fight Mistress Z with my last token... then I get randomly matched against her before then and of course Armok's usual low activity kill shot didn't work there. I swear it seems like if a glad's activity is set high enough it's as if they are in a goddamn time warp.

Armok has a boosted total of 101 strength and 104 chi. If I had Rampage...
Too many skill points sucked up by the hungry maw of Weapon Skill >.<

[lionstar]

Don't be mad at me for triple post

R O U N D  3
CHAYA almost gets up onto her feet, but gets kicked back down!
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 3
ARMOK attempts to flatten CHAYA with his MYSTIC BATTLE FLAIL.
ARMOK smiles after the magnificent hit to CHAYA's throat!  (+1498 Damage)

I'm so proud.

[IronyOwl]

Don't suppose anyone else has any opinions on 2-hander vs other combat styles? I have a War glad sitting at 0 weapon skill because I'm not sure what to take (among other reasons).

[Zangi]

Don't suppose anyone else has any opinions on 2-hander vs other combat styles? I have a War glad sitting at 0 weapon skill because I'm not sure what to take (among other reasons).

Way it is, seems top glads using dual-wield are better on the basis that they can get in much more attacks, in the process preventing the opponent from hitting as much and still hit like a truck.  That was my impression anyways.

As for heading up, with greens?  2-hander probably shines more early on?  At least in the case of my gladiators...  Applejack, 2-hander polearm war kind of hit a wall in the W:L ratio around juggernaut level... Not sure if I remember why, but it could be that her hits are not big enough, unlike my rage 2-hander, Pinkie Pie...  (Get more Chi?)

But... as a war type, you do have the option to level up a skill that makes it so your non-main weapon skills are equal to the main weapon skill.  (Of course, actual skill level of non-main weapons is the lower of the main weapon and the skill in question.)

[Rex_Nex]

Mennas

Level:
22
Record:
119-18-5

^
2h Defensive War is my favorite combo. What would be best depends on your stats...

2h: Penetrate armor regardless, ignore light and medium armor, cheaper to purchase/upkeep.
DW: More effect procs, better stats from having an extra gear slot, tears up lightly armored glads.

Decide between them by first looking at your stats. Pick the weapon your stat mostly benefits (for example, 2h weapons are great for massive str glads). What weapon type you choose isn't super important, but it's best to pick one that your glad can train into well.

[lionstar]

Just got Armok a new blue battle flail, he seems to favor battle flails over mauls and axes. Too bad it was impossible to find a war chain with a decent Chi boost.

I've gotten the impression that some types of weapons are more effective depending on certain stats, but no idea if that applies to 2h weapons. Battle flails seem like something that would require a lot of strength to use effectively 

[Zangi]

Just to throw it out there, in addition, you can be a 2-hander with agility.  Polearm weapons I believe.

[IronyOwl]

71 Str, 75 Int, 63 Agi, 63 Sta, 73 Chi, 78 Size, not sure exactly what that means. Other than that she could have been a pretty good Rage glad instead.

Do we know how damage formulas work, like why having high Str would be better for 2-handers than for dual-wielding?

[lionstar]

From the forums:

" Some weapons get attack bonuses from a higher strength while other weapons get a bonus from a higher agility. When trying to determine which is which, ask yourself how the weapon is typically used in combat and that will most likely give you your answer. Here are a couple of freebies - A Rapier is going to get more benefit out of a higher agility, and a Mace is going to get more benefit from a higher strength."

Not very helpful but it does confirm that different types of weapons depend on certain stats for efficiency.

I guess that means that Flamberges benefit from higher agility, and mauls/flails depend on strength.

Where does that leave axes, though?

[lionstar]

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The ground is soaked with water from last night's rain storm.
R O U N D  1
>> TINY AVENGER SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
R O U N D  2
TINY AVENGER shuffles quickly back and forth.
TINY AVENGER looks to cripple ARMOK.
TINY AVENGER tries to fake ARMOK out with a few twirls of his weapon!  (-Feint-)
A mammoth wound is opened on ARMOK's upper back!  (+183 Damage)
 
ARMOK smashes his BLOODSTEEL BATTLE FLAIL into TINY AVENGER.
TINY AVENGER kicks ARMOK in the chest knocking him out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
R O U N D  3
Blood continues to pour from ARMOK's body!!!
TINY AVENGER bounces quickly about.
TINY AVENGER makes a bloodthirsty stab with his BLOODSAND ZWEIHANDER.
Devastating slash to the shoulder almost removes the arm as a huge spray of blood covers the crowd!  (+221 Damage)
 
ARMOK has minor cuts and bruises on his body!
ARMOK dances hastily around his enemy.
ARMOK whirls his BLOODSTEEL BATTLE FLAIL overhead and brings it crashing down onto TINY AVENGER.
ARMOK looks to seriously damage TINY AVENGER's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
Deft strike to the abdomen destroys several useful organs!  (+798 Damage)
 
TINY AVENGER screams in agony as the strike causes him to drop his weapon!
TINY AVENGER appears very concerned with his physical state!!!
R O U N D  4
The Enforcer quickly throws TINY AVENGER a BATTLE FLAIL from off the arena wall!
ARMOK is bleeding from multiple flesh wounds!!
TINY AVENGER leaps hastily back and forth.
TINY AVENGER stumbles but swings his BATTLE FLAIL anyway.
TINY AVENGER tries to fake ARMOK out with a few twirls of his weapon!  (-Feint-)
Shot bangs ARMOK's right shin...that'll raise a good welt.  (+31 Damage)
>> TINY AVENGER SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 2
ARMOK takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
R O U N D  5
TINY AVENGER looks foolish as he attempts to slash his foe with his BATTLE FLAIL.
TINY AVENGER tries to fake ARMOK out with a few twirls of his weapon!  (-Feint-)
A spot of crimson can be seen on ARMOK's ribs.  (+32 Damage)
ARMOK tries to strike his adversary with his BLOODSTEEL BATTLE FLAIL.
ARMOK smiles after the titanic hit to TINY AVENGER's outer thigh!  (+782 Damage)
 
>> ARMOK SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 5
TINY AVENGER falls to the ground with tears in his eyes and begs the mighty ARMOK to spare his impotent life!
The Enforcer gives the thumbs up!
The fight lasted 45 seconds!

YES.

Also after reading several arguments on the forums about the changes to trophy drops, I might actually throw some money at the devs. I'll get to see if the Champion's Pack is worth getting. (After that I guess I will just spend long periods of time scraping up trophies)

And holy @!$% no wonder Armok couldn't beat Mistress Z, she's level 44 with 99 total skill points.
I must have made him advance too fast, he only has 29 total skill points >.>