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[Kamin]

So stuff gets super hard to train past rank 5, even with very high stats (like intelligence)... How does one remedy this?

[Rex_Nex]

Its not too bad, my rank 7 skills are hovering around 35%. My rank 9 ones, on the other hand... 9% :[

Just keep chipping away at it. What's super hard for you?

[Kamin]

Ranking past level 5-6 without losing amazing amounts of skill points. It's pretty nasty when you get one train for every 6 points you sink.

[Jelle]

Jeez lionstar does your entire stable consist of rages? Armok and Threetoe both have godlike score, and both rage ofcourse...
I just checked those two of you after I was in utter shock how high Threetoe climbed with such a low lvl and fights. And his win ratio jebus.
So tell me are you using all your achievement slots or something? 

More so I'm getting the feeling that the entire primus and maximus bracket consists of 50% rage glads.

Surely that can't be a coincidence, it's kind of sad how clear it is the balance is a bit wonky...

[lionstar]

Jeez lionstar does your entire stable consist of rages? Armok and Threetoe both have godlike score, and both rage ofcourse...
I just checked those two of you after I was in utter shock how high Threetoe climbed with such a low lvl and fights. And his win ratio jebus.
So tell me are you using all your achievement slots or something? 

The only thing boosting ThreeToe is the Champion's Pack, and I assume a lot of other people have it as well. (My main intention was to use it to help Armok get the skill points to max out before hitting Primus)

I don't know how exactly ThreeToe is doing as well as he is. I focused purely on weapon skill until it was at 10 so I could start doing 10/10 as soon as possible and it tore through the lower brackets.

[lionstar]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The arena gates rise slowly as the gladiators ready to spill blood!
R O U N D  1
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> MISTRESS Z SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
THREETOE makes a novice attack with his RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER.
THREETOE fumbles about with his weapon!
THREETOE's RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER accelerates toward its target with deadly purpose.
THREETOE connects with his RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER creating magnificent damage!  (+105 Damage)
THREETOE's RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER carves a path of pain through the air.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Blast to the hand sends fingers flying in several different directions!  (+335 Damage)
MISTRESS Z has small cuts and bruises from today's fight!
THREETOE decides to attack with the other hand.
THREETOE swings his DARKWOOD CLEAVER in a strong arc.
THREETOE looks to seriously damage MISTRESS Z's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
Bones in MISTRESS Z's arm crack!  (+53 Damage)
THREETOE runs furiously back and forth.
THREETOE rages like a wild beast and attacks with his RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
THREETOE's RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER connects with MISTRESS Z's upper arm creating towering wounds!  (+339 Damage)
 
MISTRESS Z drops to one knee after the shot!
MISTRESS Z is bleeding from various wounds on her body!!
MISTRESS Z tries to attack from the ground.
MISTRESS Z savagely thrusts her SCIMITAR OF POWER toward THREETOE.
MISTRESS Z aims for THREETOE's torso
A mighty wound is opened on THREETOE's groin!  (+177 Damage)
 
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 2
R O U N D  2
THREETOE is becoming noticeably weaker from blood loss!!!
MISTRESS Z picks herself up off the ground!
THREETOE decides to attack with the other hand.
THREETOE lashes out like an untamed creature and attacks.
THREETOE looks to seriously damage MISTRESS Z's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
MISTRESS Z's armour protects her!
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
THREETOE takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
THREETOE swings his RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER toward MISTRESS Z with uncanny speed.
THREETOE roars uncontrollably as he attacks!  (-Rampage-)
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Heavy shot crushes MISTRESS Z's shin sending bone fragments to adjacent areas...MISTRESS Z looks to the Enforcer with puppy dog eyes!  (+563 Damage)
MISTRESS Z is pleading with the Enforcer to spare her life!!!
THREETOE moves with unbridled energy.
THREETOE tries to cripple MISTRESS Z.
Heavy shot crushes MISTRESS Z's shin sending bone fragments to adjacent areas...MISTRESS Z looks to the Enforcer with puppy dog eyes!  (+249 Damage)
 
MISTRESS Z's leg may always be in pain!!! *** Serious Injury ***
MISTRESS Z's life is spared as the Enforcer steps in and commands THREETOE to stop!
A zealous fan runs out onto the arena sands and kisses the winner!
The fight lasted 28 seconds!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A slight breeze can be felt.
R O U N D  1
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> MADAME X SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
THREETOE swings his RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER nearly losing his balance.
THREETOE fumbles about with his weapon!
THREETOE looks to pulverize his enemy.
Heavy shot crushes MADAME X's shin sending bone fragments to adjacent areas...MADAME X looks to the Enforcer with puppy dog eyes!  (+278 Damage)
 
MADAME X attempts to pummel THREETOE with her BLOODSIDIAN FLAMBERGE.
THREETOE's armour absorbs the hit!
THREETOE leaps forward, hammering his DARKWOOD CLEAVER downward with great force.
THREETOE smiles after the monstrous hit to MADAME X's solar plexus!  (+210 Damage)
MADAME X has minor cuts and bruises on her body!
THREETOE hurtles right at his enemy.
THREETOE tries to bash his enemy with his RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
The blow to MADAME X's tricep lands with magnificent force!  (+718 Damage)
MADAME X appears very concerned with her physical state!!!
THREETOE brings his weapon down only to be blocked by the Enforcer!
The loser is dragged out of the arena!
The fight lasted 6 seconds!

Thank God for serious injuries 

ThreeToe is getting Underdog achievements really quickly

[AlStar]

Stop beating on my stable! 

Wow, after all the trouble that he's given me, this was a surprise from Body Snatcher:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

R O U N D  1
 
>> BODY SNATCHER SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> MADAME X SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
 
BODY SNATCHER moves hastily back and forth.
BODY SNATCHER swings his IRONWOOD MAUL nearly falling over in the process.
BODY SNATCHER fumbles about with his weapon!

MADAME X moves and leaps around BODY SNATCHER.
MADAME X whips her BLOODSIDIAN FLAMBERGE toward BODY SNATCHER with deadly accuracy.
BODY SNATCHER backs up a few inches as MADAME X descends upon him!  (-Shock & Awe-)
Grizzly shot severs BODY SNATCHER's spine sending strange electrical shocks to BODY SNATCHER's entire body making him look like a rag doll!  (+514 Damage)
BODY SNATCHER screams as he hits the sand from the force of the blow!
BODY SNATCHER's body is going to need a lot of work!!! *** Serious Injury ***

R O U N D  2
 
BODY SNATCHER quickly brings himself to an upright position!
MADAME X looks at the crowd as she flies around the battle field.
MADAME X storms BODY SNATCHER and tries to dismember him.
MADAME X tries to knock BODY SNATCHER down with the force of the blow!  (-Barreling Attack-)
BODY SNATCHER drops to one knee after the shot!
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Slash to BODY SNATCHER's sternum opens a sucking chest wound!  (+1043 Damage)
MADAME X grins as she readies the finishing blow but the Enforcer saves the conquered warrior BODY SNATCHER!
The fight lasted 29 seconds!

[lionstar]

Well at this point I'm just using ThreeToe to bully glads that gave Armok trouble in the past. ThreeToe managed to knock Testie Popper from 1st to 4th with one match.

Armok never lost to him, I just don't like his name.

[Jelle]

At last, take that Styx!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The gladiators walk into the roar of bloodthirsty fans from this sell out crowd!
R O U N D  1
>> STYX SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> AEGIS SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
STYX circles AEGIS like a starved vulture, looking for an opening.
STYX swings his WYRDSTEEL BATTLE AXE wildly through the air.
STYX roars uncontrollably as she attacks!  (-Rampage-)
STYX's face scowls as AEGIS's armour does its job!
>> STYX SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 3
AEGIS jumps and leaps around STYX.
AEGIS seeks to slice STYX.
AEGIS tries to fake STYX out with a few twirls of her weapon!  (-Feint-)
Whoosh...STYX is almost cut in two!  (+197 Damage)
 
AEGIS dashes uncontrollably around her adversary.
AEGIS looks to slice STYX with her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD.
AEGIS looks to hamstring STYX!  (-Hamstring-)
The blow to STYX's stomach lands with mighty force!  (+197 Damage)
 
R O U N D  2
STYX whips around with his off hand.
STYX attempts to carve into AEGIS with his IRONWOOD FRANCISCA.
STYX looks to seriously damage AEGIS's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
AEGIS's armour protects her!
STYX leaps around the arena in hopes of action.
STYX fluidly whirls around smashing his IRONWOOD FRANCISCA into AEGIS with a brutal backhanded attack.
STYX is aiming at AEGIS's trailing leg.
A titanic wound is opened on AEGIS's solar plexus!  (+303 Damage)
 
AEGIS darts furiously around STYX.
AEGIS moves close, shoving the sharp tip of her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD toward STYX.
Cruel strike to the side removes most of STYX's liver...don't worry, it'll grow back!  (+173 Damage)
 
Resisted Can Not Defend Effect!
STYX has taken some slight damage from this fight!
AEGIS moves with uncontrolled energy around the arena.
AEGIS sneaks in an off handed strike.
AEGIS seeks to maul STYX.
Hard crushing blow breaks STYX's arm in two!  (+177 Damage)
 
STYX takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
AEGIS slams her BONE-IRON WALL SHIELD at STYX.
Crushing blow to STYX's head shatters the nose!  (+58 Damage)
 
R O U N D  3
Open wounds continue to bleed on STYX's body!!!
STYX is no longer affected by Hamstring
AEGIS moves and leaps around STYX.
AEGIS tries to chop STYX with her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD.
AEGIS tries to fake STYX out with a few twirls of her weapon!  (-Feint-)
AEGIS's weapon rips into STYX's back inflicting horrific damage!  (+203 Damage)
 
STYX cries aloud as his body is sent crashing to the ground by the attack!
STYX's body is going to need a lot of work!!! *** Serious Injury ***
Resisted Stun Effect!
STYX is bleeding from multiple flesh wounds!!
AEGIS dances and skips around STYX.
AEGIS slams her BONE-IRON WALL SHIELD forward.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
A towering wound is opened on STYX's chest!  (+176 Damage)
 
Resisted Stun Effect!
STYX should have spent more time running laps.
R O U N D  4
STYX can't find an opening to stand!
STYX moves around on the ground looking for an opening to strike.
STYX makes a downward strike with his WYRDSTEEL BATTLE AXE.
AEGIS kicks STYX in the chest knocking him out of striking range!  (-Create Distance-)
AEGIS makes a slashing attack with her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD.
Shot to the head removes STYX's eye along with part of the brain!  (+323 Damage)
 
STYX cringes as his weapon drops to the ground after the strike!
STYX tries to give up!!!
STYX lets forth the roar of a lion and prepares to leave it all on the sands!  (-Last Stand-)
AEGIS charges uncontrollably back and forth.
AEGIS sees an opening and attempts to shove her CRAFTED BROAD SWORD into STYX.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Wicked slash slices open STYX's chest...heart and lungs pureed, sickening!  (+689 Damage)
 
STYX drops his weapon as the pain from the hit streaks through his body!
Resisted Stun Effect!
STYX's ass is saved just in time to avoid certain death from AEGIS!
A zealous fan runs out onto the arena sands and kisses the winner!
The fight lasted 39 seconds!

[Rex_Nex]

y u beat up ashenzari, aegis? q-q

[lionstar]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A volcano erupts in the distance.
R O U N D  1
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> MISTRESS Z SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
THREETOE attacks in a frenzy.
THREETOE aims for MISTRESS Z's head.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
The blow to MISTRESS Z's bicep lands with towering force!  (+182 Damage)
THREETOE decides to attack with the other hand.
THREETOE hacks at MISTRESS Z, his DARKWOOD CLEAVER carving a path of fearsome devastation.
Good shot to the elbow cracks some bones and sends pain in all directions!  (+58 Damage)
 
THREETOE rages like a mad bull and charges.
THREETOE looks to seriously damage MISTRESS Z's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
Internal organs are mashed by the beastly shot!  (+129 Damage)
MISTRESS Z is bleeding from minor cuts and bruises!
THREETOE's RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER hurtles through the air with deadly intent.
THREETOE roars uncontrollably as she attacks!  (-Rampage-)
Hard crushing blow breaks MISTRESS Z's arm in two!  (+252 Damage)
 
THREETOE pelts madly to and fro.
THREETOE swings his RUNE-POUNDED HAMMER with deadly force.
Incredible smash to what used to be MISTRESS Z's stomach brings the crowd to their feet!  (+63 Damage)
 
MISTRESS Z's EPIC SABER viciously slices through the air toward THREETOE.
Wicked slash slices open THREETOE's chest...heart and lungs pureed, sickening!  (+124 Damage)
 
THREETOE takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
R O U N D  2
THREETOE tries to stop his bleeding!!!
THREETOE looks to an off handed strike to deal damage.
THREETOE tries to flatten his adversary.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Awesome shot to the upper arm squashes nerves and veins on bone shards!  (+247 Damage)
 
MISTRESS Z has taken some heavy damage from this fight!!
THREETOE speeds around as if on fire.
THREETOE looks to an off handed strike to deal damage.
THREETOE swings his DARKWOOD CLEAVER with deadly force.
THREETOE looks to seriously damage MISTRESS Z's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
A huge laceration to the lower arm exposes meat and tissue...MISTRESS Z's arm becomes almost useless!  (+138 Damage)
 
MISTRESS Z is pleading with the Enforcer to spare her life!!!
MISTRESS Z lets forth the roar of a lion and prepares to leave it all on the sands!  (-Last Stand-)
MISTRESS Z circles THREETOE like a starved vulture, looking for an opening.
MISTRESS Z sneaks in an off handed strike.
MISTRESS Z charges at THREETOE and seeks to dismember her opponent.
Shot to the head removes THREETOE's eye along with part of the brain!  (+187 Damage)
 
Fatigue weighs THREETOE down, slowing his attacks.
THREETOE has small cuts and bruises from today's fight!
MISTRESS Z looks to cripple THREETOE with her SCIMITAR OF POWER.
MISTRESS Z looks to stun THREETOE with one of her signature moves!  (-Signature Move: Stun-)
Terrible slash to THREETOE...entrails spill out onto the ground!  (+278 Damage)
 
THREETOE screams as he gets knocked to the ground by the massive shot!
THREETOE's body is going to need a lot of work!!! *** Serious Injury ***
Resisted Stun Effect!
>> MISTRESS Z SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 2
THREETOE has some pretty nasty cuts and bruises on his body!!
R O U N D  3
THREETOE is no longer affected by Signature Move
THREETOE picks himself up off the ground!
>> MISTRESS Z SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
THREETOE bounces and leaps around MISTRESS Z.
THREETOE sneaks in an off handed strike.
THREETOE seeks to pound MISTRESS Z with his DARKWOOD CLEAVER.
THREETOE aims for MISTRESS Z's head.
THREETOE tries to knock MISTRESS Z down with the force of the blow!  (-Barreling Attack-)
MISTRESS Z watches as the ground comes rushing up to meet her after the wicked strike!
Throat is nearly crushed. MISTRESS Z begins to make gurgling noises!  (+78 Damage)
THREETOE runs frantically around MISTRESS Z.
THREETOE sneaks in an off handed strike.
THREETOE uses his DARKWOOD CLEAVER to carve a path of destruction.
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Massive shot to MISTRESS Z's arm...The grounds keepers are going to have to work hard to clean up this mess!  (+305 Damage)
 
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 2
THREETOE should really think about taking a break!
THREETOE smiles at the crowd moments before helping MISTRESS Z achieve the eternal sleep!
 
A zealous fan runs out onto the arena sands and kisses the winner!
The fight lasted 31 seconds!

oops.

Well that was a close fight, if not just because Mistress Z is level 48 with maxed skill points and 1400 hp.

I know ThreeToe is an above average fighter for some reason, but does the game really need to put him up against maxed glads when he himself is only level 34? It's a bit much.

[AlStar]

oops.

Well that was a close fight, if not just because Mistress Z is level 48 with maxed skill points and 1400 hp.

I know ThreeToe is an above average fighter for some reason, but does the game really need to put him up against maxed glads when he himself is only level 34? It's a bit much.

Bleh. Well, at least I know that (-Last Stand-) is working now. You would not believe the kind of effort needed to get that up and running on a theatrics gladiator.

[IronyOwl]

Ranking past level 5-6 without losing amazing amounts of skill points. It's pretty nasty when you get one train for every 6 points you sink.

You can rank up attributes to slightly increase the odds of relevant skills ranking up. Of course, attributes suffer from the same issues as skills, so I'm not sure if/to what extent it's actually worth doing that.

Otherwise, yeah, nothing you can really do. I believe I tried stuffing a relevant achievement into a slot and it didn't seem to affect anything, no idea if equipment affects anything either.

[AlStar]

Ranking past level 5-6 without losing amazing amounts of skill points. It's pretty nasty when you get one train for every 6 points you sink.

You can rank up attributes to slightly increase the odds of relevant skills ranking up. Of course, attributes suffer from the same issues as skills, so I'm not sure if/to what extent it's actually worth doing that.

Otherwise, yeah, nothing you can really do. I believe I tried stuffing a relevant achievement into a slot and it didn't seem to affect anything, no idea if equipment affects anything either.

The problem is that it requires a lot of the relevant stats to make a difference.
As a result, any +1 or +2 by iteslf is going to make almost no difference.

With the +45 or so STR from her gear (giving her a total around 115 or so, if I remember correctly) X gets a couple extra % to train her high level skills (easily noticeable by checking skills that just require strength vs those that use strength and something else.)

So, not to say you shouldn't work towards those goals, but just know that you can't just expect to slot a couple bandit-killing (or whatever) achivements to get that level 10 weapons skill any faster.

[Rex_Nex]

Yeah, I can of figured training attributes isn't really worth it if all you want is a better training chance.