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[lionstar]

You can't convert gold to trophies anymore. Instead you can "refer friends", which is useless because I don't think there are any decent sized forums out there that would tolerate such advertising.

[Facekillz058]

Thats depressing.

The creater of the game should update his forum post then.

[Facekillz058]

I am so utterly sick of my rage.
He has 70 Str, and he still refuses to make hits above 50 with a MAUL.

He has brought shame upon my family, and thus, will we sold when a promising theatrical slave comes along.

I have a few questions:
1. So slashing weapons cause more bleeding?
2. Bleeding isnt proportional to how much damage the attack did, but to the severity of the wound it causes?
3. In that case, lots of little hits are good for bleeding but not direct damage?
4. Commonsense seems not to apply here, so are daggers slashing or stabbing weapons, and will stabbing cause as much bleeding as slashing?
5. Does the body part you hit affect bleeding at all?
6. Will lots of small hits drain as much endurance as a few big ones?
7. If i'm dual-weilding daggers, will i still attack alot each round on lower levels of activity?
8. Does bloodlust affect how much bleeding you cause?
9. Do any stats in particular affect how often you inflict bleeds?

Thats about all i have for now.

[AlStar]

I am so utterly sick of my rage.
He has 70 Str, and he still refuses to make hits above 50 with a MAUL.

Are you sure he's using the right attack method? Don't slash with a maul, don't bash with a sword.

Also - what's his weapon skill up to? Don't expect much more then fumbling till you get to 5 or so. I pretty much make do with 7 (since that's when it gets down to 30% or so success), although I've recently (now that my glads have pretty much maxed out their skills) started burning the points to work up to 10.

I have a few questions:
1. So slashing weapons cause more bleeding?

Generally, yes.

2. Bleeding isnt proportional to how much damage the attack did, but to the severity of the wound it causes?

Seems to be - I've had good luck with my theatrical glad with just the exotic dagger, which doesn't do much damage, but hits quickly and (with some points in 'cause extra bleeding') tends to inflict 25 bleed per critical hit.

3. In that case, lots of little hits are good for bleeding but not direct damage?

See above, although don't knock direct damage - sometimes you don't have the time to let people bleed out.

4. Commonsense seems not to apply here, so are daggers slashing or stabbing weapons, and will stabbing cause as much bleeding as slashing?

I've gotten decent results with both, just don't use it like a club and you should be fine.

5. Does the body part you hit affect bleeding at all?

Doesn't seem to, although I haven't done a scientific study or anything.

6. Will lots of small hits drain as much endurance as a few big ones?

Depends on the weapon, your acrtivity level and your beserk level. Daggers naturally will hit more often then mauls, although both will hit more often if you crank your glad up to 10/10.

7. If i'm dual-weilding daggers, will i still attack alot each round on lower levels of activity?

See above. Yes, bascially.

8. Does bloodlust affect how much bleeding you cause?

Don't think so.

9. Do any stats in particular affect how often you inflict bleeds?

Stats? No. But there is a theatrics skill that causes bleed, and there's a race - Sniviller(sp?) which also causes extra bleed.

[lionstar]

I thought the best thing to do was get your weapon skill up to 10 right away. I did that with ThreeToe and he is tearing stuff up at 10/10 and a record of 141 - 20 - 13

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The odds makers are quickly collecting money from all the eager gamblers.
R O U N D  1
>> DAKKON SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
THREETOE flashes furiously around his opponent.
THREETOE tries to smash DAKKON with his RUNE-POUNDED MORNING STAR.
Massive shot punches a hole through DAKKON's chest!  (+150 Damage)
>> DAKKON SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 4
THREETOE decides to attack with the other hand.
THREETOE seeks to pulverize his adversary.
THREETOE looks to seriously damage DAKKON's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
Massive shot caves in DAKKON's chest!  (+94 Damage)
 
DAKKON has minor cuts and bruises on his body!
DAKKON looks to maim his opponent with his IRONWOOD TRIDENT.
Vital strike focused at THREETOE's sternum splits bone and tickles the heart causing blood to spurt forth from the hole!  (+57 Damage)
THREETOE uses his BONEWOOD SMASHER to lash out with deadly force.
THREETOE tries to knock DAKKON down with the force of the blow!  (-Barreling Attack-)
DAKKON screams as he gets knocked to the ground by the massive shot!
THREETOE's attack lands on DAKKON's shoulder causing towering injuries!  (+96 Damage)
 
THREETOE looks at the crowd as he speeds around the battle field.
THREETOE whips around, swinging his BONEWOOD SMASHER with unbelievable speed.
THREETOE smiles after the titanic hit to DAKKON's torso!  (+120 Damage)
>> THREETOE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 2
DAKKON attempts to strike from the ground.
DAKKON tries to spear his enemy.
DAKKON aims for THREETOE's head.
Nice hit into the ear almost punctures the ear drum!  (+36 Damage)
THREETOE takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
DAKKON readies a strike from the ground.
DAKKON sneaks in an off handed strike.
DAKKON tries to lance his adversary.
Shot creates a cut over THREETOE's right eye.  (+24 Damage)
DAKKON attempts to strike from the ground.
DAKKON makes an off handed attack.
DAKKON looks to lance his enemy with his DARKSTEEL CESTUS.
DAKKON's DARKSTEEL CESTUS connects with THREETOE's waist creating major damage!  (+34 Damage)
 
DAKKON tries to attack from the ground.
DAKKON looks to injure his adversary with his IRONWOOD TRIDENT.
Bones in the arm crack from the powerful thrust!  (+34 Damage)
DAKKON attempts to strike from the ground.
DAKKON sneaks in an off handed strike.
DAKKON looks to jab THREETOE.
DAKKON's face scowls as THREETOE's armour does its job!
DAKKON moves around on the ground looking for an opening to strike.
DAKKON looks to lance THREETOE.
DAKKON's IRONWOOD TRIDENT connects with THREETOE's solar plexus causing mighty damage!  (+42 Damage)
 
THREETOE should have spent more time running laps.
THREETOE is bleeding from minor cuts and bruises!
DAKKON tries to attack from the ground.
DAKKON throws an awkward punch with his DARKSTEEL CESTUS.
DAKKON is aiming at THREETOE's head.
Weak strike to the outer arm barely penetrates the skin...a trickle of blood can be seen though.  (+23 Damage)
R O U N D  2
DAKKON yells in frustration as he looks for an opening to stand!
THREETOE hurtles madly to and fro.
THREETOE spins around before lashing out with a brutal backhanded attack.
THREETOE looks to seriously damage DAKKON's armour!  (-Sunder Armour-)
THREETOE's RUNE-POUNDED MORNING STAR connects with DAKKON's head creating gigantic damage!  (+252 Damage)
 
DAKKON has some pretty nasty cuts and bruises on his body!!
DAKKON moves around on the ground looking for an opening to strike.
DAKKON whips around with his off hand.
DAKKON looks to maim his adversary with his DARKSTEEL CESTUS.
THREETOE's armour protects him from the attack!
THREETOE charges madly around his adversary.
THREETOE seeks to squash his opponent.
Blast to the hand sends fingers flying in several different directions!  (+291 Damage)
 
DAKKON takes a step back to catch a quick breather.
DAKKON tries to give up!!!
THREETOE yells in anger as the Enforcer saves DAKKON's life!
The crowd roars its approval!
The fight lasted 22 seconds!

Unfortunately the game keeps putting him against opponents over 10 levels higher than him. Irritating to have 750 hp and go up against other Ragers with 950-1000.

[Facekillz058]

Thanks for the replies.

I am bashing with the maul.

His weapon skill is 3, and he fumbles maybe once or twice a match.

My polearm based War has the same level of weapon skill, about 60 str, and even with the junk Armoury weapons hits 70+ often.

Anyway, yeah.

[lionstar]

I just realized how close Armok is to Maximus. Maybe I'll get him there before the next Blood Games. Wouldn't want to miss out on a month long ass-whupping

And here is a feeble attempt at referring someone: http://www.pitofwar.com/ref/a1t39524


Pole-arms rely on Agility, by the way.

[Facekillz058]

Polearms use Agility?
I didn't consider that.

That being said, Malmar also has 60 Agility.

[IronyOwl]

I didn't notice anyone mentioning it yet, but apparently there's been another update. Jimmy no longer steals your gold, and Pit fights reward gold rather than costing it.

The main upshot of this is that Jimmy's 10% tax was a major barrier in saving up enough gold for purple items being purchasable to really matter. Now purples just cost a lot more time than blues.

[Facekillz058]

GOD DAMMIT DELMURT!

You HAD to go and die in a black market fight!

Im thinking about not selling Delmurt just because of how pathetically he fails.

[Jelle]

That change to black market is pretty nice. Guess I'll do those more often just to cash in. It's also a nice way to see wich strategies work since it evens out any gear advantages.

At long last! Different gladiator and a black market fight, but a single victory! 

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The arena gates rise slowly as the gladiators ready to spill blood!
GLAIVE looks to be weighed down by her weapons and armour.
R O U N D  1
>> ASHENZARI SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
>> GLAIVE SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 1
ASHENZARI hustles furiously around GLAIVE.
ASHENZARI closes on GLAIVE and looks to impale her adversary.
ASHENZARI fumbles about with her weapon!
GLAIVE hurtles uncontrollably to and fro.
GLAIVE seeks to cripple his adversary with his BATTERED GLAIVE.
GLAIVE looks to stun ASHENZARI with one of his signature moves!  (-Signature Move: Stun-)
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Wicked hit destroys ASHENZARI's collarbone sending shards of bone flying everywhere!  (+588 Damage)
 
ASHENZARI curses as the attack knocks her weapon to the ground!
ASHENZARI finds an old POLE ARM laying on the ground.
R O U N D  2
GLAIVE runs uncontrollably around ASHENZARI.
GLAIVE strikes with wicked speed, his BATTERED GLAIVE carving a brutal arc through the air.
GLAIVE tries to fake ASHENZARI out with a few twirls of his weapon!  (-Feint-)
GLAIVE's attack lands on ASHENZARI's neck causing mammoth injuries!  (+284 Damage)
 
ASHENZARI hits the ground hard after that last hit!
Resisted Stun Effect!
R O U N D  3
ASHENZARI quickly brings herself to an upright position!
>> ASHENZARI SWITCHES TO STRATEGY 2
ASHENZARI is no longer affected by Signature Move
ASHENZARI hustles like wild fire to and fro.
ASHENZARI decisively attacks with her POLE ARM.
Piercing shot to GLAIVE's solar plexus!  (+30 Damage)
GLAIVE bounces and leaps around ASHENZARI.
GLAIVE moves towards ASHENZARI and looks to maul his opponent.
GLAIVE tries to fake ASHENZARI out with a few twirls of his weapon!  (-Feint-)
An old injury is hit and magnifies the damage!
Heavy shot crushes ASHENZARI's shin sending bone fragments to adjacent areas...ASHENZARI looks to the Enforcer with puppy dog eyes!  (+593 Damage)
 
GLAIVE grins as he readies the finishing blow but the Enforcer saves the conquered warrior ASHENZARI!
The fight lasted 28 seconds!

[Rex_Nex]

Yea, the Black Market isn't very lucrative, but making 100g a match is better then losing gold! Glad to see he scaled back the money consumers.

[Facekillz058]

Ugh, Malmar would be in the top ten in the black market if he would just stop killing everyone.

And to top all this off, there isnt a single polearm or heavy armor in the blacksmith.

[dennislp3]

My first slave is doing really well...13-1-1 in the official and 11-1-1 in the black market so far

Just bought a second one cause it had 64 size and 78 intelligence with a few other respectable stats...made her a war specialized slave and so far is 4-1-0

[lionstar]

I guess I will have to make ThreeToe stop doing arena fights because now he is being bullied by a level 40 and 46. ThreeToe himself is level 29.
This is fucking ridiculous. I don't see how those fights should count on his record.

I am starting to see how records mean nothing. There will always be builds designed to perfectly counter other builds, and then they get their asses kicked by builds designed to take them out. It's just a cycle of one-sided fights, as if this is a giant multiplayer game of rock-paper-scissors where you have to use the same choice every time.


At least, that's how it is from the perspective of a late game 2h rage.

What's that? Your "totally beast", lightning fast Theatrics beat my 2h Rage?

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