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[Haspen]

Thread for various OOC talkings.

From now on, post only IC posts and mission turns' posts in the game thread. Everything else (questions, suggestions, game applications) should be posted here instead

Also, for the start of the thread - a poll!

[Taricus]

Fair enough. And BRING ON THE DAKKA.

[Haspen]

I'm thinking of new weapons and suits all the time.

It's hard to provide neat guns whilst still maintaining Tsuan technological superiority

[Blizzlord]

The obvious answer.

[Tiruin]

For Tsuchi!

[RAM]

What is the pink box?

[Tiruin]

What is the pink box?

Pink box?

[Blizzlord]

What is the pink box?

If you refer to the picture, it is a Warhammer 40K ork with a really big shoota. They are the origin of the term "(more) dakka."

[Tsuchigumo550]

I can help with making new suit ideas and weapons and whatever, I have literal notebooks filled with mech game ideas.

If nothing else, I can name something?

Note that whatever I post is just a guide- something that obviously has too much dakka to be given to newbs should be toned down.


I are suck at balance.

In fact, I'm going to start throwing ideas in this spoilerbox and tell you whenever something significant goes in

Also note that in the descriptions, most reference a "strange engineer". That's my little monkier.

[NO PORT] means nothing can be equipped there.

[LOCK] means a part cannot be switched.

[DUALTYPE] is a two-weapon-in-one deal, but these are rare and often a useless compromise. unless it's the Grind Lance...

[STAGGER],[KNOCKBACK],[SCRAMBLER], and others to be listed here are Status Effects. They are described, but may later show the tag and a activation percent- the first few times this is seen it's written out. All of them are -fairly- easy to track, like Stagger which reduces an enemy affected to only be able to use one weapon, no move. Knockback will send an opponent flying a number of spaces, Scrambler can stop enemies from using weaponry, etc. They all last one turn, so nothing overlaps too bad.

Note for total gen capacity i am using (shield total x2 + 1/4th Shield Total)

I'm also hoping formulae I write are understandable...

Spoiler: Tsuchi's Toybox (click to show/hide)

Name: Laplace I
Class: Special Ops
Hull Points: 350/350
Shield Generator: 500.20
Initiative Factor: 2.0
Evade Capability: 25%
Reactor Capacity: 1125/100
Armaments:
-Main weapon:
--Heavy Slug Rifle [A: 20/20]
-Side weapon:
--Slug Rifle [A: 40/40]
-Missile launcher:
--[NO PORT]
-Utilities:
--Anti Lock Chaff (Roll divided by 2 subtracted from Enemy Hit Chance Roll = New Enemy hit Chance Roll) [LOCK]
Desc: A very strange suit made by a very strange man. It lacks a Missile Launcher port, replacing that with a special armament that is used to confuse enemy missiles. This mech's head is actually a radar dish, and while fragile, it's useful for communications. This model was originally a surveillance-type, before being recrafted by the strange engineer.

Name: Metal Hound
Class: [CLASSIFIED]
Hull Points: 750/750
Shield Generator: 300.30
Initiative Factor: 1.0
Evade Capability: 15%
Reactor Capacity: 675/60
Armaments:
-Main weapon:
--Heavy Gauss Rifle [A: 12/12]
-Side weapon:
--Light Slug SMG [A:125/125]
-Missile launcher:
--Judgement [A:16/16]
-Utilities:
--Slot Empty
--Slot Empty
Desc: A very heavily armored suit, but it doesn't look like it was made to fight Tsuan suits. if not that, what could it be? It is a fairly old mech, but...

Name: Inari
Class: Front Line Assault
Hull Points: 550/550
Shield Generator: 400.30
Initiative Factor: 3.0
Evade Capability: 25%
Reactor Capacity: 775/75
Armaments:
-Main Weapon
--EMP Cannon [A:4/4]
-Side Weapon
--Light Slug SMG [A: 125/125]
--Light Slug SMG [A: 125/125]
-Missile Launcher
--Scatterer [A: 60/60]
-Utilities
--Syn-Metric FCS (Allows two identical side weapons to be used in one turn.)

Spoiler: Tsuchi's Packin' Heat (click to show/hide)

Name: Light Slug SMG
Damage Type: Metal
Ammo: 125, 5 per shot
% Hit: 65
Damage: 10-30
Range: Short
Special: -

Name: Judgement
Damage Type: Metal
Ammo: 16, 2 per shot
% Hit: 40
Damage: 40-80
Range: Short-Long
Special: 20% chance that whenever this hits the hull of an opponent it will be unable to move next turn (Only fires 1 weapon.) [STAGGER]

Name: EMP Cannon
Damage Type: Metal
Ammo: 4, 1 per shot
% Hit: 60
Damage: 20-60
Range: Medium-Long
Special: 80% chance of [SCRAMBLED], caused by an EMP. Even Tsuan suits are not impervious, their shields falter and die out. It requires repairing at a base to fix.

It also makes a really, really annoying noise, ever play ACV? Like those really weird laser suits from Contaminated Zone (Order Missions)

Name: Lancelot MS/Blade [DUALTYPE]
Damage Type: Metal / Metal
Ammo: 1, 1 per shot /
% Hit: 50 / 50
Damage: 40-120 / 50-100
Range: Short / Med-Long Range
Special: After using the Ranged attack, this weapon becomes useless. It can be used as a blade if the ranged attack is unused.

---
Tsuan Only Weapons
-Tsuan suits are more advanced, and some have some very destructive weapons built right into the core. They're mostly unuseable because they either get destroyed or have Tsuan technology security locks.
--Most are boss-type weapons- the kind of destruction that a boss truly deserves.

[Grinder Lance]
[DUALTYPE]
Name: Grinder Lance
Damage Type: Metal
Ammo: -
% Hit: 50
Damage: 100-200
Range: Short
Special: 5% chance to disable a weapon. 5% chance to destroy unit without damage calculation if the attack hits and the target has no shields.

Name: Grinder Eraser
Damage Type: Laser
Ammo: 1, 1 per shot
% Hit: 30
Damage: 200-400
Range: Short-Long
Special: 80% shield peirce, fires in a straight line, goes through anything it hits- complicated angles can be done with slope or MS paint lines.

[RAM]

One idea would be to have long-range mechs with devices to recharge energy, say, at the cost of doing nothing else, and dropping their shields, because recharging energy seems like a big no-no in the current system, and devices to minimise hull damage, maybe halving hull damage and doubling shield damage, because there is nobody to repair you out there...

P.S.
I meant the pink box on the game map, it starts at about 11 and ends at the bottom of the map. I would guess that it is where the ship's guns can fire but...

P.P.S.
 When does the waiting list advance?

P.P.P.S.
 What are the conditions on the ship like? Does everyone carry weapons everywhere? Is the food rationed and arbitrary? Do you have to duck when going through doors? Do you have to constantly open and close heavy hatches? Are private quarters shared? cramped? exchanged between shifts? Can you see outside? Is gravity consistent? Are the walls dull metal? shiny metal? beige? covered in advertisements? covered in graffiti? covered in propaganda? pitch black? blinding white? a single mural contributed to by everyone on the ship? Is it brightly-lit? red-lit? automatically lit based upon motion? Are there power-fluctuations? Do the engineers hate the pilots who hate the cleaners who hate the cooks who hate the quarter-masters who hate everyone?

P.P.P.P.S.
 

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

[Haspen]

I will take all these into considerations. These ideas will be helpful when I will be tinkering around

PS: It is Cruiser's artillery target range. It is there all the time, but as the ship moved closer toward the asteroid field, so does it's cannons' range.

PPS: During Intermissions, when it is storyline-and-logically possible. The other Cruiser that helped Scylla during bombardment few turns ago has several pilots and suits on board as all other... *wink wink, nudge nudge*

PPPS: They are fairly comfortable and basically think of cruisers like big city-fort-things floating in space. Weapons are given out only during danger of boarding. Food in general is plentiful on board, but there's not much of things to choose from, mostly basic and simple meals and provisions. Not really - neither side has means to perform artillery strikes without being noticed first on long-range sensors. Doors and hatches are motion-sensitive and are locked only during emergencies (fire on board, engine fuel leak, etc). Private quarters are private, but there's not really much place for anything else than bed, a small closet and few square metres of empty space. No, one person holds his quarters alone, unless requested. Yes, there are small portholes in most of rooms. Gravity is consistent thanks to technology shenaningans. Walls are silvery-black as the hull of Terran ships are made from titanium alloys. Walls do not have any viewing panels except in rooms, for communication purposes; intercom speakers can be found pretty much everywhere, on the ceilings. All places are lit quite well unless it is necessary to turn off the lights. Power generation is as stable as engines are. Everyone tries hard to be friendly to each other, because everyone knows that lack of teamwork will doom the ship to the superiority of Tsuan fleet.

Any more questions?

[Twi]

I'm thinking of new weapons and suits all the time.

It's hard to provide neat guns whilst still maintaining Tsuan technological superiority

Moar dakka! Also, moar laser warheads! :3

Anyways, I shall throw out a few ideas myself. Be advised that I'm too lazy to make the stats numbers or sensible or anything.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Twiiiiii~'s stuff~
Name: Railgun
Damage Type: Metal
Ammo: 10, 1 per shot
% Hit: 65
Damage: 60, 10-20 per hit (see below)
Range: Medium-Long
Special: PIERCE: This weapon projectile goes so fast it keeps going through enemies until it runs out of total damage. It's too bulky to use in short range, but makes a surprisingly sturdy club.

Name: Minigun
Damage Type: Metal
Ammo: 200, 20 per shot
%hit: 40%
Damage: 20-35
Range: Short-Medium
Special: None

Name: Laser-Warhead Missile
Damage Type: Missile/Laser
Ammo: 20, 1/6 per shot....
%hit: 50%
Damage: 30-40
Range: Medium-Ultralong
Special: Each missile fires 6 lasers as it explodes, which do the actual damage. An AOE variation may or may not exist.

Name: Explosive Rifle
Damage Type: Explosive (Is that what missiles do? )
Ammo: 30, 1 per shot
%hit: 70%
Damage: 30-60
Range: Short-Medium
Special: Fires an explosive slug. Say no more.

[RAM]

Or open missile racks, with, say, half as much ammunition, a chance of blowing up whenever you take hull damage, but they can be launched at whatever rate the pilot wants.

[Tsuchigumo550]

Spoiler: Waitlist me! (click to show/hide)

Name: Sanya Degyatrev
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Race: Terran
Ranks: Recruit
-Rifles I (+5% Hit)
-Melee 0
-Launchers I (+5% Hit)
-Initiative 0
-Evade II (+10% Evade)
Rank Points Left: 0
Kills: 0
Suit: Karnak Deuteron (Sanya has asked her superiors repeatedly for that shiny new Tactical Long Range Laser Rifle combined with solar turbines, even if it meant stripping everything else from the mech.She's less adamant about the turbines, but will not shut up about that rifle.)
History:
She was Tsuchi's lover and subordinate during the war. She's quiet, reserved, and shy, good in a suit but preferring not to get caught up in a fight. While she dosen't have a real specialty when it comes to weapons, she's very evasive and good for attacking at range.

She's very emotionally fragile, and learning of Tsuchi's death (or super horrible injury, I still wish he was a ship NPC- screaming about manly tactics and the good old days...) put her in a slump for weeks. While it's easy to make her cry, she's also a powder keg of hatred and rage, should you press the right buttons. Most of the time, she's just simply... there.

She doesn't try to socialize but also doesn't try to avoid socializing.

She's short and petite, and while she's not much of a fighter, she's very slippery in combat- she was the one keeping Tsuchi alive by retreating with him all this time.

She's willing to drink and is bad at gauging her liquor-holding abilities, and she's very easy to manipulate when even slightly drunk. Doing this to her... may just add to the explosive force of that powder keg.

She's one of the greatest pool/billiards players ever. Her aim with weapons inside a suit she's been in for little more than 3 days reflects that.

She's friends with the developer of the Aegis, though this dosen't really net her anything but a minute level of respect.

On the battlefield, she's just as quiet as she normally is, but she's a cold-blooded killer. It's simple- don't get in her way and she won't hit you.

Out of combat, if she's comfortable with someone, she's a happy, caring person.

She's begging Command to let her have a particular weapon that the designer of Aegis also created, and she's got a letter from the creator saying she can use it. They might not listen simply because they don't want to give up the rifle so easily, however.

Also added two new weapons as of 4:15 PM 5/18/12

[Haspen]

Adwarf: Landing on the ship means you're leaving the mission ;P

Double check if you want to miss few juicy kills under your belt C: