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[Faeryx]

I am attempting to build a well and I am going to be using a waterwheel to power the screw pump, but for some reason I cannot build the water wheel. It says blocked and that it needs ground or to be near a machine, I assumed the a vertical axle would be considered a machine, but it still isn't working. If no, is is possible to build one next to a gear assembly and have it immediately transfer the power to a horizontal axle?

[Garath]

waterwheels need a horizontal axle or a gear 'supporting' them over the water. If you use a gear and later link it to a lever to stop the power... don't, the waterwheel is not supported by deactivated gears and will deconstruct

[Faeryx]

For some reason it won't let me build a horizontal axle over the water, it stills says it needs ground or to be near a machine, it won't let me build a gear assembly either, same problem. Does it not count a vertical axle as a machine/machine component?

[Sphalerite]

A vertical axle will only support a gear directly above (or below) it.  You can't build a vertical axle and then build a gear next to it and expect it to work.  You need to build the vertical axle on the Z-level below, and then build the gear directly above the vertical axle, with a channeled hole under the gear so it's resting directly on the axle.  You then build a horizontal axle attached to the gear, and then a waterwheel attached to the horizontal axle.

[slothen]

don't confuse vertical with north/south axles.  Those are still considered horizontal axles.

[Garath]

For some reason it won't let me build a horizontal axle over the water, it stills says it needs ground or to be near a machine, it won't let me build a gear assembly either, same problem. Does it not count a vertical axle as a machine/machine component?

you don't need to build the axle in the spot for the waterwheel. I really have no clue what you're doing now. Build a horizontal axle that points to the water on GROUND, or make a gear, and then build the waterwheel 'above' the water

[Faeryx]

I understand that I can't expect a vertical axle to work horizontally, I'm not trying to do that. I am trying to build it vertically from the vertical axis. In regards to the horizontal axle, I can't build one facing the water because the water runs horizontally.

[jhxmt]

I understand that I can't expect a vertical axle to work horizontally, I'm not trying to do that. I am trying to build it vertically from the vertical axis. In regards to the horizontal axle, I can't build one facing the water because the water runs horizontally.

Afraid you've lost me as well.

This is my normal setup, when I've got a river running north/south:

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A vertical axle goes up/down z-levels...is that what you're trying to build?

[Garath]

trying again: make a horizontal axle, toggle it so it faces the apropriate direction: a 3 tile wide area of open water. you can then build th waterwheel 'above' the 3 tile wide area, connected and supported by the horizontal axle

If you didn't notice yet, there is a N/S axle and a E/W axle, you can switch between them

There is NO vertical axis going up from a waterwheel, just like a windmill doesn't have a direct horizontal connection. It's a wheel: like a car 0----0, with a driving axle and a gear system somewhere else.

Please eleborate what the hell you're actually trying to do, provide illustrations, mention what you want to build at what z level and what location, is it a river or brook, how far out in the river, what the hell?

your explanations so far have been far from informative

trying once more, say the river flows here:

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x xx x xx x x x

build a horizontal N/S on the shore (the badly placed x's) and then make the waterwheel in the river, south of the axle make a gear and then you can make a vertical axis, but you do need to make sure you have like stairs or other access to actually reach it

[slothen]

I understand that I can't expect a vertical axle to work horizontally, I'm not trying to do that. I am trying to build it vertically from the vertical axis. In regards to the horizontal axle, I can't build one facing the water because the water runs horizontally.

The picture by jhxmt should help.  As for vertical axles, waterwheels must be built 'hanging' i.e. completely over open space.  They can only transmit power and be supported by a horizontal axle connecting to their center tile, or a gear assembly immediately adjacent to their center tile.  A pump also works, but is a bad idea for various reasons.  In short, vertical axles are a no-go.  As for building axles over open space, horizontal ones can be up to 10 tiles long, and i believe they can be constructed as long as one tile is built over a floor, or they are supported by a mechanical device on either end.

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, - open space over water, F-floor  = is horz axle.

[Sphalerite]

I understand that I can't expect a vertical axle to work horizontally, I'm not trying to do that. I am trying to build it vertically from the vertical axis. In regards to the horizontal axle, I can't build one facing the water because the water runs horizontally.

I suspect you are mistaking what 'horizontal' and 'vertical' mean here.  Vertical axles are ones which run from one Z-layer to another.  Horizontal axles are ones which run either north/south or east/west on one Z-level.  If you have water running 'horizontal', by which I assume you mean east-west, you will use a horizontal axle running north-south to connect to your water wheel.

[CodexDraco]

Hmm something weird going on:

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I have made this setup a few times, but this time is not working. Maybe it's related to the OP problem?

[Boes]

Hmm something weird going on:

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I have made this setup a few times, but this time is not working. Maybe it's related to the OP problem?

with your setup,  you are building a waterwheel on a brook.   Brooks have a magic covering over them that has to be channeled out first before the waterwheel will work on them

[CodexDraco]

Right, I'm a noob  . Don't mind me.