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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1500 on: May 29, 2012, 05:57:45 pm »

[The pump stacks haven't breached the surface yet, aren't even ready, and if they were they would be 165 meters apart and fluids could not backwash into them because the pump heads are facing each other, and excess fluids would spill over the walls onto the ground outside. The retaining walls aren't even complete yet, so no pumping will be going on, and if it was you would pump magma in first, then water to obsidianize. If you pump water first it would be a disaster because the water would evaporate as magma approaches offering absolutely abysmal coverage. Cog is managing the construction and excavation workforce, not the pump operators (who have nothing to do right now.)

Have you ever used pump stacks before? There's no way you could accidentally wash fluids into the opposite stack unless you left an open tunnel between them halfway up or something, which should never be the case. I'm designing this thing, I haven't made those kinds of mistakes with my pump stacks in a year or more. They're always hermetically sealed with a single staircase to the top as access, which is a couple tiles away and the entrances to the stakc are walled off appropriately. It'd be powered from directly overhead with the drive train being the pumps themselves, and have drains to dump fluids for maintenance. The worst I'd do is accidentally use non-magma-safe blocks or something in a pump and have to drain it and repair the damage. Or get bored and never finish the project.


Oh good, you corrected it. Oh well.]
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1501 on: May 29, 2012, 06:02:49 pm »

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



HugoLuman broadcasted to the network.

Is Zanzetkuken still listening? I've just thought of something, something that I must discuss with him immediately.
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1502 on: May 29, 2012, 06:21:09 pm »

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



Perhaps with the weakening of these walls the worlds have begun to come to rest beside one-another in a single great landmass, where a map of Aluonra would be separated from a map of Ecamo Alino by landscapes that fill in for the difference in the edges of the maps, so Boatmurdered and Swordthunders could be hundreds of thousands of miles apart. Quite the journey, there.
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1503 on: May 29, 2012, 06:25:07 pm »

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



HugoLuman broadcasted to the network.

Is Zanzetkuken still listening? I've just thought of something, something that I must discuss with him immediately.

The network was taken down by the new masters, so you are speaking to no one.  I also saw what was happening from my vantage point, but I got distracted by Corai's real world respawn.  The Alara Conflux should give you a good idea of what is happening.

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



Perhaps with the weakening of these walls the worlds have begun to come to rest beside one-another in a single great landmass, where a map of Aluonra would be separated from a map of Ecamo Alino by landscapes that fill in for the difference in the edges of the maps, so Boatmurdered and Swordthunders could be hundreds of thousands of miles apart. Quite the journey, there.

This is a part of what is happening, but not the entire thing.  The land mass would be 5x the size of two large-map hemispheres, but would overlap in areas, allowing for one supercontinent where all of the places are within ten miles of each other.  However, only the major areas are lasting through this, while the minor areas are being destroyed.

The blind eternities looks roughly like this in the DF cluster of planes:


and just before the super-plane is formed, like this:


Due to the shout I used, no planeswalker will be able to tap into its power.  The dragon plane is not going to be dragged into that, and the old fort's continent will be unaffected, as well as all of the areas in the map I had made earlier.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2012, 06:44:52 pm by Zanzetkuken The Great »
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1504 on: May 29, 2012, 06:48:02 pm »

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



HugoLuman broadcasted to the network.

Is Zanzetkuken still listening? I've just thought of something, something that I must discuss with him immediately.

The network was taken down by the new masters, so you are speaking to no one.  I also saw what was happening from my vantage point, but I got distracted by Corai's real world respawn.  The Alara Conflux should give you a good idea of what is happening.

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



Perhaps with the weakening of these walls the worlds have begun to come to rest beside one-another in a single great landmass, where a map of Aluonra would be separated from a map of Ecamo Alino by landscapes that fill in for the difference in the edges of the maps, so Boatmurdered and Swordthunders could be hundreds of thousands of miles apart. Quite the journey, there.

This is a part of what is happening, but not the entire thing.  The land mass would be 5x the size of two large-map hemispheres, but would overlap in areas, allowing for one supercontinent where all of the places are within ten miles of each other.  However, only the major areas are lasting through this, while the minor areas are being destroyed.

Ten miles apart would be far too short, and 5x a large world is far too small to squish all that complexity into. They'd have to be butting up against one-another with some small strip of landscape between, or face a either a massive paradox of "where the shit did all that landmass and those civilizations go that were driectly influencing us?" Because there would be many civilizations interacting with these community-game sites -including those interacting with ours currently- that simply vanish, including their own mountainhomes. And/or a massive world-ending orogeny from all that squashed landmass suddenly becoming a mountain range the heights of which cannot be comprehended by mortals, covering the entire continent and murdering us all in the massive uplift and earthquakes and shit going on, which clearly could not be happening. You couldn't arrange all those sites and the biomes they exist in appropriately to fit in such a small space either way. It would become too complex. Where would the Blueness of Malodors go? Become two little puddles sitting beside Failcannon and Battlefailed? Nope.
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1505 on: May 29, 2012, 06:53:41 pm »

A sort of "bridge" forms, like the Straight Road of middle earth or a sort of lost woods effect. Travelers sort of get "lost," going into a forest or something in one world and coming out of it in another.

I need to reach Zanzetkuken somehow, to find out a way to prevent this spark of mine from becoming active...
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1506 on: May 29, 2012, 07:11:01 pm »

A sort of "bridge" forms, like the Straight Road of middle earth or a sort of lost woods effect. Travelers sort of get "lost," going into a forest or something in one world and coming out of it in another.

I need to reach Zanzetkuken somehow, to find out a way to prevent this spark of mine from becoming active...

It's already active.  That's why I first approached you.

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



HugoLuman broadcasted to the network.

Is Zanzetkuken still listening? I've just thought of something, something that I must discuss with him immediately.

The network was taken down by the new masters, so you are speaking to no one.  I also saw what was happening from my vantage point, but I got distracted by Corai's real world respawn.  The Alara Conflux should give you a good idea of what is happening.

Other DF worlds, such as the various succession games, are in other dimensions of this universe. Sufficiently weighty figures from their histories can be summoned with the rare substance forumitium. Something must have weakened the walls between worlds for the various prominent DF planes to begin coming together, but with all the insane metaphysical shenanigans that have happened it will be hard to narrow down what exactly it was...



Perhaps with the weakening of these walls the worlds have begun to come to rest beside one-another in a single great landmass, where a map of Aluonra would be separated from a map of Ecamo Alino by landscapes that fill in for the difference in the edges of the maps, so Boatmurdered and Swordthunders could be hundreds of thousands of miles apart. Quite the journey, there.

This is a part of what is happening, but not the entire thing.  The land mass would be 5x the size of two large-map hemispheres, but would overlap in areas, allowing for one supercontinent where all of the places are within ten miles of each other.  However, only the major areas are lasting through this, while the minor areas are being destroyed.

Ten miles apart would be far too short, and 5x a large world is far too small to squish all that complexity into. They'd have to be butting up against one-another with some small strip of landscape between, or face a either a massive paradox of "where the shit did all that landmass and those civilizations go that were driectly influencing us?" Because there would be many civilizations interacting with these community-game sites -including those interacting with ours currently- that simply vanish, including their own mountainhomes. And/or a massive world-ending orogeny from all that squashed landmass suddenly becoming a mountain range the heights of which cannot be comprehended by mortals, covering the entire continent and murdering us all in the massive uplift and earthquakes and shit going on, which clearly could not be happening. You couldn't arrange all those sites and the biomes they exist in appropriately to fit in such a small space either way. It would become too complex. Where would the Blueness of Malodors go? Become two little puddles sitting beside Failcannon and Battlefailed? Nope.

There are civilizations that are too far away to affect the games, and those would be obliterated.  Only what affects the stuff is retained.  Oceans would merge, and the planes combining would only be the areas that are well known.  Others that are not posted are not in the mix, and only then, only the ones that are known by a decent portion of the forumites, or in the hall of legends are combining.  The ones that have fallen from memory are farther away, so all of it could fit onto a world that is that large.  Plus, you forgot about the other hemisphere.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2012, 07:13:54 pm by Zanzetkuken The Great »
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1507 on: May 29, 2012, 07:41:04 pm »

[snip for sanity]

There are civilizations that are too far away to affect the games, and those would be obliterated.  Only what affects the stuff is retained.  Oceans would merge, and the planes combining would only be the areas that are well known.  Others that are not posted are not in the mix, and only then, only the ones that are known by a decent portion of the forumites, or in the hall of legends are combining.  The ones that have fallen from memory are farther away, so all of it could fit onto a world that is that large.  Plus, you forgot about the other hemisphere.

Of course there would be two hemispheres for the temperatures to match up. I didn't forget about that, I didn't think it was important. But the world would still have to be much larger, and you couldn't dump any of the other civilizations or the land they exist on because those civilizations still influence the others, as does the materials they trade which must originate from the land they occupy. Even if these are lost, you'd have to merge the wildlife populations and evil/savagery of each biome that is being merged. There cannot be any loss of landmass with this setup, though, because you couldn't merge them effectively and retain any significant portion of the information they depend on. It absolutely must all be there, even though excess information that hasn't been interacted with previously may be added to conjoin them.

Hugo's explanation actually works the best in that the worlds are still not connected physically but through landmarks or small areas that act as transitions or mass portals, where wilderness that is not part of important information for any world is combined. Enter it from one side, come out the other, enter again and return to the original, with multiple regions like this in each world where they are linked to another. A portion of deep forest nearby could act in this manner as a transition to swordthunders, as our closest neighboring transitional zone.
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1508 on: May 29, 2012, 07:44:39 pm »

-Oh wonderful joy, I get to learn what digging is like. A entire twenty feet trench, in stone, all for me to dig! How I love my father.-

-Yes Zanzetkuken, those were mine. I needed some firebrand for my doomsday device.-

-100 PAGES, YES.-

-TO MANY OOCS, TO MANYYYYY-

-Now whats going on again? I didnt bother to read Zanzetkuken's wall of death text.-


Corai, suspecting a panic when he fell out of the tree, saw that three people looked, then turned away.


"...Guess I look like a civilian." He said.


What a cute dog!

"What."
« Last Edit: May 29, 2012, 08:03:21 pm by Corai »
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1509 on: May 29, 2012, 07:52:16 pm »

He was ready now. All he needed was for Corai to get near a computer, and he would be taken back. He supposed it was relieving that a perception filter caused Corai to appear as his original self, as it would make it harder to warn other Bay12er's who had not been snatched. Not that Corai was likely to encounter them, though.
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1510 on: May 29, 2012, 07:55:11 pm »



-And Hugo, I am here. I get to dig tommarow, so I am set.-
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1511 on: May 29, 2012, 07:58:41 pm »

With a pick? I'll warn you, I never got bigger blisters than when I cleared the clay off the top so we could put some planting soil in the garden. To save your hands, try holding a handkerchief around the handle.
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« Reply #1512 on: May 29, 2012, 08:00:23 pm »

-A pick bigger then I am, and I am 6.1. Oh joy...-

-Ohfu, I just realized I accidently implied I respawned in the REAL WORLD. Eh, might as well go along with it.-
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« Reply #1513 on: May 29, 2012, 08:16:37 pm »

Wait, where were you planning on respawning?
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Re: If Bay Forum were a Mountain Hall, continued...
« Reply #1514 on: May 29, 2012, 08:18:45 pm »

Wait, where were you planning on respawning?


-Zanzetkuken's dimension. But meh, I can get to a computer in three posts.-
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