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[thistleknot]

Yeah, that would work.

Is there a danger of them crossing over to the other burrow to get to another destination within their own burrow?

example

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# - overlapping burrows
@ - Exclusively Housewives Burrow
* - Exclusively Everyone else's burrow (i.e. where training room/hallway is)

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will my housewives try to cross through the * area if trying to get to the # area?

[Garath]

big sigh:

no

regular working burrows don't define where people can walk, only where they can work and get stuff like food from

[thistleknot]

so there's no way I can segment foot traffic without segmenting some to a burrow completely

[GhostDwemer]

Regular non military alert burrows don't change where a dwarf will walk. They just won't accept a job outside their burrow. They won't pick up items, drop off items, work in workshops, eat, drink, or sleep outside their burrow. They will happily path outside their burrow to get to a different part of their burrow, though. Most importantly, an idle dwarf may go anywhere, regardless of burrows. Moving your training room behind a lockable door is the better solution. Station a squad there when you want them to train. Or turn your training room into a barracks and have them train there.

[Garath]

seriously...

"I made my main hallway deadly to babies and children, now babies and children are dieing. how do I change this."

seriously, don't make a main hallway like that. I've kind of had it. Segregation in DF doesn't keep it that far that you can descriminate sexes like that

[pavlovs drool]

You can just put the danger room in the dining room and burrow that.

[azrael300]

lock em up and only allow the teenagers to pass.
or block your entrances and exit's to the spike hall (besides the ones that go to your bait and the one that lets the enemies in)
either one will work(i hope)
or you can set the pressure plates to not be activated by baby's and civilians.

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

lock em up and only allow the teenagers to pass.
or block your entrances and exit's to the spike hall (besides the ones that go to your bait and the one that lets the enemies in)
either one will work(i hope)
or you can set the pressure plates to not be activated by baby's and civilians.

He doesn't want to block the spike hall, he's using it to train civilians in dodging.

Pressure plates would weed out the children, but not babies, since they are carried by their mothers.

[azrael300]

lock em up and only allow the teenagers to pass.
or block your entrances and exit's to the spike hall (besides the ones that go to your bait and the one that lets the enemies in)
either one will work(i hope)
or you can set the pressure plates to not be activated by baby's and civilians.

He doesn't want to block the spike hall, he's using it to train civilians in dodging.

Pressure plates would weed out the children, but not babies, since they are carried by their mothers.

ok then .... use a burrow on the main hall.

[FuzzyZergling]

lock em up and only allow the teenagers to pass.
or block your entrances and exit's to the spike hall (besides the ones that go to your bait and the one that lets the enemies in)
either one will work(i hope)
or you can set the pressure plates to not be activated by baby's and civilians.

He doesn't want to block the spike hall, he's using it to train civilians in dodging.

Pressure plates would weed out the children, but not babies, since they are carried by their mothers.

ok then .... use a burrow on the main hall.

Did you read the thread?
A burrow wouldn't work, since normal burrows don't restrict a dwarf's pathing, only it's ability to accept jobs.

[azrael300]

lock em up and only allow the teenagers to pass.
or block your entrances and exit's to the spike hall (besides the ones that go to your bait and the one that lets the enemies in)
either one will work(i hope)
or you can set the pressure plates to not be activated by baby's and civilians.

He doesn't want to block the spike hall, he's using it to train civilians in dodging.

Pressure plates would weed out the children, but not babies, since they are carried by their mothers.

ok then .... use a burrow on the main hall.

Did you read the thread?
A burrow wouldn't work, since normal burrows don't restrict a dwarf's pathing, only it's ability to accept jobs.

yes but after the correct dwarfs go there, put restricted at the entrances and exits to the burrow

[thistleknot]

What do u mean put restricted at the entrances/exit?

Ur not talking about an alert...

U must be talking about assigning dorfs to a burrow no?

And if I'm to restrict, whom do I restrict?  Mothers w children or everyone else?

Where am I placing the burrows?  On the training area, or everywhere else?


Update:
I really think I can use burrows for moms in the training hall, I just need to ensure the burrows don't overlap and there's no reason she would need to cross paths/burrows

[Garath]

or restrict pathing, which will count for everyone, including the moms

might just as well ignore that post

[thistleknot]

or restrict pathing, which will count for everyone, including the moms

might just as well ignore that post

you might be onto something,  I might be able to setup a restrict area between my mothers burrow and the training room, so they won't try to cross the restricted path (which on the other side will be the training spikes/hallway).

[GhostDwemer]

Traffic restrictions don't work that way. They should really be called "preferences" or "recommendations." They do not restrict where a dwarf will go. If a dwarf wants to go someplace and the only path is across two hundred restricted tiles, they will happily walk across those two hundred tiles as if they were unrestricted. When a dwarf decides what to do next, it chooses targets by distance "as the worm tunnels" i.e. in a direct line, regardless of path. Only then does the dwarf figure out how to get there. Every step on the path on a normal tile costs two abstract "points." A high traffic tile costs one, a low traffic tile costs 5 points, and a restricted tile costs 25.  At each point on the path, the game checks the tiles around the current tile and adds the total point cost so far to the direct line distance guesstimate. It picks the next tile with the lowest cost and recomputes from there. So designating tiles as restricted will tend to make dwarfs take alternate routes IF they are available. If not they will path right through restricted tiles. And traffic restrictions do squat for kids and animals. The only way to make this work would be to ensure the mothers have no reason to ever want to go past the spears. Some combination of burrows, restrictions, and an alternate path might work.