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Author Topic: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?  (Read 7986 times)

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Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« on: May 13, 2012, 11:30:15 pm »

Will this save some FPS ?
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 12:17:31 am »

Probably.
It will also probably cause their parents to go insane and begin the slow rolling death of your fort.
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 12:18:12 am »

Slabs also help. But then, no body they couldn't have died if no-one saw it...

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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 03:37:11 am »

every dwarf is regularly pathing, so will eat up some fps. There are more ethical ways to limit children. Animals should be limited too, even when in cages they take up fps
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 04:30:32 am »

Kill them slowly over a few season to allow the happy to return.  Also, helmets for everyone so the inevitable fist fights aren't fatal.  Well, armor for everyone (leather/bone/shell is fine) if you want to manage that, but helmets for sure.  Plenty of food, booze, and coffins, and a legendary dining room, and you're set.

I kill anyone I want in my fort all the time.  I actually have made the main entrance to my fort a danger room.  Sure I get a bit of "dwarven baby has been impaled on spike" spam, and there's no cats left, but everyone else is getting good at dodging.

If only the children would fail their dodge rolls more often...
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 07:14:48 am »

There are more ethical ways to limit children.

Kill them slowly over a few season to allow the happy to return.

Ah, Dwarf Fortress - where 'ethical' is a state of mind.  And editable.
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 07:46:00 am »

Turn all dwarves harvest on and make huge farms with burrows allowing only the children in.  Slave labor! :D
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 10:54:47 am »

if you build a secluded chamber somewhere and ensure they're all smashed at once, then immediately slab them, there will be no happiness problems.

However, if one child is missed by the bridge and sees the other 39 get smashed, the parents will instantly know and go insane.
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 01:00:00 pm »

individual smashing rooms
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 01:01:01 pm »

Like any mass murder solution, this is simply an engineering problem.
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 01:56:57 pm »

if you build a secluded chamber somewhere and ensure they're all smashed at once, then immediately slab them, there will be no happiness problems.

However, if one child is missed by the bridge and sees the other 39 get smashed, the parents will instantly know and go insane.

Is there really anything to 'see' during an atomsmashing event though?  I don't think even light escapes.
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2012, 03:07:07 pm »

its true there won't be a body to discover, but i would expect that if a citizen can witness the moment of death, you'll get one of the regular death notifications, meaning dwarven sadness abounds.
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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 03:16:39 pm »

But if all the witnesses were killed at the exact same instance....

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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2012, 03:27:02 pm »

Doesn't atomsmashing lead to FPS death?

Dehydrate them to death or something.

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Re: Should I atomsmash 40 dwarven children?
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2012, 03:32:32 pm »

Atomsmashing items doesn't help, IIRC.  Atomsmashing creatures should be perfectly effective.  You don't need to get all forty in one go.  You could get them ten at a time.  The important thing is that there are no witnesses.  Seems like an effective solution to the DF children problem.
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