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[dwarfkoala]

the transformations of a werewolf - each month, they transform and get heavier(I think...) and then untransform later. If you set this pressure plate to be resettable, and set it to be triggered whenever the were-subject gets heavier and untriggered whenever the subjects untransforms, you can set up a system where each month, it drops a 7/7 block of water onto a 13zlevel deep vertical pit, with a pressure plate at the 13th level, triggerable by water which will take the enire fort down. To ensure one trigger of the were-timer won't kill the fort, you have to use a system of hatches to isolate a single 7/7 block of water, sort of like this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[]represents hatch
7 represents water
W represents were-timer animal/goblin(which don't die from old age, don't eat and are in very plentiful supply  )/etc
^ represents the doomsday trigger
O represents solid rock

77777(water resivoir)
7 OOO
7 OOO
[]OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
OO

When triggered by the were-timer, a floodgate or hatch would seal the 7/7 block we intend for dropping off from the resivoir, thus making sure we don't die instantaneously.



77777(water resivoir)
[]OOO
7 OOO
[]OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO


then, the hatch under the 7/7 block of water we intend for dropping would open, allowing the block to fall.


77777(water resivoir)
[]OOO
   OOO
  OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
7 O
OO

when the wereanimal transforms back into a regular animal, it's light, and thus the pressure plate in untriggered and reset, and the hatch we use to drop the water is closed again, and the resivoir hatch is opened again, allowing another 7/7 block of water to go into the drop chamber. if you sacrifice a dwarf, then the entire water pit thing drains.
77777(water resivoir)
7 OOO
7 OOO
[]OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO

[khearn]

Werecreatures don't eat or drink? That's news to me, I thought it was only vampires that didn't. Are you sure about that?

[Loud Whispers]

The Doom Clock!!

Not to detract from anything... But that one ! Is a hero of punctuation.

[Hanslanda]

I wonder if DF players are channeling their violent impulses into the game, because they would rather not express them in real life? The people 'round here seem to be a rather unusually nice bunch; I can't imagine you're all sociopaths, and I know I'm not one. Perhaps games like this one are ways to explore one's violent impulses safely, without hurting anyone, because if we did, we'd never forgive ourselves.

That seems quite likely.  I wouldn't say there are NO sociopaths here, I personally feel I qualify, but being in an accepting environment with similar views would appear to alleviate any difficulty relating. 
And, from Dr. Wikipedia:

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He believed psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, he claimed that sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; sociopaths are born with average temperaments, their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence. In other words, psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental

TL;DR Psychopaths can't care or feel.  Sociopaths lost or suppressed that ability in 'self-defense'.

Although, it could be the fact that its just a game, and we are all rational well-adjusted individuals who happen to enjoy violent thought exercises.

[Orky_Boss]

Oh. My God. I don't even know where to start! With only seven dwarves, I need to clear out this stone, smelt the metals, figure out out to make a memorial for the ghosts, clean up all this trash, And I forgot how often I have to sacrifice a dwarf.

EDIT: And it sure is laggy...

[wierd]

That's just friend computer processing which of your dwarves is most likely to be a communist sympathizer.

You have to make him feel safe by ousting a token communist or two every so often, or else friend computer will initiate the scorched earth subroutine.

Remember, thos commies are everywhere.

[feralferret]

The Doom Clock!!

Not to detract from anything... But that one ! Is a hero of punctuation.

Because multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind?

This is such an awesome idea... reminds me of the homicidal computer program in the first Resident Evil movie. I can't wait to try it out!

[ThatAussieGuy]

I wonder if DF players are channeling their violent impulses into the game, because they would rather not express them in real life? The people 'round here seem to be a rather unusually nice bunch; I can't imagine you're all sociopaths, and I know I'm not one. Perhaps games like this one are ways to explore one's violent impulses safely, without hurting anyone, because if we did, we'd never forgive ourselves.

That's just friend computer processing which of your dwarves is most likely to be a communist sympathizer.

You have to make him feel safe by ousting a token communist or two every so often, or else friend computer will initiate the scorched earth subroutine.

Remember, thos commies are everywhere.

Well this thread certainly took a weird turn...

Hmmm... A pillar fort set to drop do its doom? Sounds like what I described to you when you posted a thread asking for ideas :p

Is it?  Credit where due, then. 

So did you end up using my water tower Doomsday clock design, as well?

Will download to check this out when I get home

That would be telling.  Go try and get at the clock yourself :-P

the transformations of a werewolf - each month, they transform and get heavier(I think...) and then untransform later. If you set this pressure plate to be resettable, and set it to be triggered whenever the were-subject gets heavier and untriggered whenever the subjects untransforms, you can set up a system where each month, it drops a 7/7 block of water onto a 13zlevel deep vertical pit, with a pressure plate at the 13th level, triggerable by water which will take the enire fort down. To ensure one trigger of the were-timer won't kill the fort, you have to use a system of hatches to isolate a single 7/7 block of water, sort of like this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[]represents hatch
7 represents water
W represents were-timer animal/goblin(which don't die from old age, don't eat and are in very plentiful supply  )/etc
^ represents the doomsday trigger
O represents solid rock

77777(water resivoir)
7 OOO
7 OOO
[]OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
OO

When triggered by the were-timer, a floodgate or hatch would seal the 7/7 block we intend for dropping off from the resivoir, thus making sure we don't die instantaneously.



77777(water resivoir)
[]OOO
7 OOO
[]OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO


then, the hatch under the 7/7 block of water we intend for dropping would open, allowing the block to fall.


77777(water resivoir)
[]OOO
   OOO
  OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
   O
7 O
OO

when the wereanimal transforms back into a regular animal, it's light, and thus the pressure plate in untriggered and reset, and the hatch we use to drop the water is closed again, and the resivoir hatch is opened again, allowing another 7/7 block of water to go into the drop chamber. if you sacrifice a dwarf, then the entire water pit thing drains.
77777(water resivoir)
7 OOO
7 OOO
[]OWO
   OOO
     ^O
   OOO

Interesting idea, but not even close.

[dwarfkoala]

Hmph, were-elf powered doomsday clocks would be totally awesome!

[Eric Blank]

Interesting idea, but not even close.

And why couldn't you make a clock out of that? Werebeasts trigger traps, including pressure plates, correct? Unless plates won't trigger/untrigger unless the creature physically leaves their tile... It wouldn't work on reclaim I suppose.

[NCommander]

So now that I managed to scrub the raws, and play with it a bit. One glitch I had is the third floodgate failed to open, and the fourth one opened. Not sure if this intended behavior or not ...

[ThatAussieGuy]

So now that I managed to scrub the raws, and play with it a bit. One glitch I had is the third floodgate failed to open, and the fourth one opened. Not sure if this intended behavior or not ...

Yeah, that happens sometimes.  Hazard of the design I used, but I left it in just for the thrill.  Check that clock often...

It wouldn't work on reclaim I suppose.

That's about right.

[Urist Da Vinci]

I was able to locate the clock using without using dfhack or exploratory mining, and then disarm it. 

However, the method I used could be protected against in another version of the device.

It is also possible to protect against some versions of the "link it to the nearby floor/wall so the support doesn't matter" solution. Collapse the floor and drop the sky on top of the fort as well as collapsing the fort itself.

So much junk and dead bodies on the map. Reclaim scatter is annoying.

[slothen]

I wonder if DF players are channeling their violent impulses into the game, because they would rather not express them in real life? The people 'round here seem to be a rather unusually nice bunch; I can't imagine you're all sociopaths, and I know I'm not one. Perhaps games like this one are ways to explore one's violent impulses safely, without hurting anyone, because if we did, we'd never forgive ourselves.

That's an offensive notion.  We just happen to have a very clear sense of the distinction between fantasy and reality, as well as healthy, active imaginations.  Feeling an emotional attachment to the dwarves is natural and enhances the gameplay experience.  Feeling a moral obligation to them in any way is downright absurd.

[ab00]

Surround clock with waterlock(or magmalock). A use for an otherwise theoretical device!