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[Jopax]

Main issue with going SSF is that the game has not been designed with such play in mind, they just added the thing in as an afterthought and haven't bothered touching it since. Additionally, they don't want to increase the quant/rarity of drops in SSF because you can always migrate to a regular league, which is kind of a dumb reasoning imo but whatever, their game, their rules.

Tho I will say that the current league is about the most SSF friendly to date, simply because there's so many sources of good and semi-deterministic items, as well as several kinds of crafting systems that it's not too far from a trade league if you know what you're doing.

Fuck the way you get crafting recipes for sockets tho, tying it to specific delve encounters is kinda shit, especially since they still haven't realised that RNG gating content is a shit move that ends up fucking over people a lot of the time.

[JimboM12]

Wow i havent played this in a while. I like that baal gems now also grant the base version of their spells.
Im still a summoning templar on my main who has since dropped from whatever league i made him in to standard. Still fun to command armies of minions. Some of the new support gems are legit for this build too.
In the current betrayal league, im running a on hit cast scion with ancestral support so i nuke entire groups.

[Retropunch]

Main issue with going SSF is that the game has not been designed with such play in mind, they just added the thing in as an afterthought and haven't bothered touching it since. Additionally, they don't want to increase the quant/rarity of drops in SSF because you can always migrate to a regular league, which is kind of a dumb reasoning imo but whatever, their game, their rules.

Tho I will say that the current league is about the most SSF friendly to date, simply because there's so many sources of good and semi-deterministic items, as well as several kinds of crafting systems that it's not too far from a trade league if you know what you're doing.

Fuck the way you get crafting recipes for sockets tho, tying it to specific delve encounters is kinda shit, especially since they still haven't realised that RNG gating content is a shit move that ends up fucking over people a lot of the time.

Yeah I'd prefer if they kept SSF completely separate and upped the drops - probably better to just lower the cost on everything instead but something to make it a bit more in line with everyone else's experience.

[Rince Wind]

Wow i havent played this in a while. I like that baal gems now also grant the base version of their spells.

facepalm
And I thought that was just as a hint about the original, a qol feature. So...I will use my vaal gems more now, thanks!

[Retropunch]

Wow i havent played this in a while. I like that baal gems now also grant the base version of their spells.

facepalm
And I thought that was just as a hint about the original, a qol feature. So...I will use my vaal gems more now, thanks!

Annoyingly, you can't use them in the same quick slot - I'd like it if I could do the normal version until the vaal version charges up.

[Sirian]

I've started selling stuff and it's actually nice. I feel like some sort of shopkeeper.

It's also a nice change of pace from farming, I list my stuff and alt-tab until the PMs start coming in. Then when things quiet down I close shop and go back to farming ^^

[Retropunch]

I've started selling stuff and it's actually nice. I feel like some sort of shopkeeper.

It's also a nice change of pace from farming, I list my stuff and alt-tab until the PMs start coming in. Then when things quiet down I close shop and go back to farming ^^

Yeah I never really did it much before this league - the occasional high value unique or some high quality gems but nothing else really. It can be enjoyable, especially when you're getting currency you need for stuff you know you'll never use.

[Doomblade187]

Just started out on this game, any tips for a Witch?

[Retropunch]

Just started out on this game, any tips for a Witch?

It depends what you're looking to do; summoning or sorcerer style blaster? You can do a bit of both, but PoE rewards specialising a lot.

You don't need to get into the realms of the end-game builds which are built around one skill, but you should decide what sort of 'magic' you want to use as you want to build up as many synergies as you can. Check out https://poeplanner.com and decide what sort of element/thing you want to go into - picking an element and focusing on it is a good way to become quite powerful - there are few enemies that are completely resistant to any element (and you can take passives/use curses that let you ignore those resistances).

As such, you'll want to focus on some attack skills (an aoe and a one for big single enemies) and then think about a curse and some sort of defensive skill.

Let us know what sort of Witch you want to play and I'm sure we can help more.

[nenjin]

That's the hardest part of starting PoE: knowing what you want to do with your class.

Summoner is the easiest and most straight forward build to pull off for Witch, IMO. The gems are readily available, and the uniques you want to to kick your build in to overdrive are cheap and relatively common. (At least on Standard, I think I have like 3 copies of the Bones of Ulnar or w/e those boots are called.)

Spell slingy Witch, by comparison, requires a little more thought and gear to pull off.

[JimboM12]

this games summoning is as large and powerful as it was in 1.0 Diablo 2.

so, large amounts of summons (around 8 zombies, 2 spectres (ghost copy of enemies), 1 golem (or 1 of each element), an animated guardian (a copy of your own character that can use gear, so they get pretty powerful), potentially up to 10 skeletons (or an army of like, 32 with the vaal gem) and many others.

as a summoning templar, i think im going to use the one aura ascendency class for them that gives auras and stuff.

[Flying Dice]

Just started out on this game, any tips for a Witch?

Don't focus on class. Class is largely irrelevant apart from which passive keystones are easy to reach and which ascendancies you can access. Figure out what sort of build (i.e. which core attack/spell skill/skills) you want, then pick a class that complements that.

Witch tends to fall into three groupings. All minion builds want to go Necromancer. All CI builds, cold damage builds, chaos damage builds, and curse builds want to go Occultist (this is almost always CI+one or two of the others). All ele damage/ele conversion builds not involving cold DoTs want Elementalist.

Wow i havent played this in a while. I like that baal gems now also grant the base version of their spells.

facepalm
And I thought that was just as a hint about the original, a qol feature. So...I will use my vaal gems more now, thanks!

Annoyingly, you can't use them in the same quick slot - I'd like it if I could do the normal version until the vaal version charges up.

TBH I'd rather not. Vaal skills frequently have different purposes than their base skills, or need to be applied in different ways--take Vaal Cold Snap, the core skill is a targeted AoE that you drop and forget, while the Vaal skill is a damage aura.

[Ozyton]

Seeing this topic again has me curious. I only played act 1 of PoE a long time ago around when it was first released and I don't really have much experience in ARPGs in general. Since you're talking about new players, I was curious if there's something in the game and if it would actually be viable. I played a bit of Torchlight 2 and was enjoying a build that used a two handed hammer and AOE slam attacks to do damage and debuffs... is there something like that in this game? I know there's a skill you can get early in the game called Glacial Hammer but that only hits a single enemy. It was cool freezing enemies like that, so a frost AoE would be what I'm looking for. (E: Also, I kinda like being tanky more than glass cannon sort...?)

I would look it up myself but I wouldn't even know where to start.

[Sirian]

Seeing this topic again has me curious. I only played act 1 of PoE a long time ago around when it was first released and I don't really have much experience in ARPGs in general. Since you're talking about new players, I was curious if there's something in the game and if it would actually be viable. I played a bit of Torchlight 2 and was enjoying a build that used a two handed hammer and AOE slam attacks to do damage and debuffs... is there something like that in this game? I know there's a skill you can get early in the game called Glacial Hammer but that only hits a single enemy. It was cool freezing enemies like that, so a frost AoE would be what I'm looking for. (E: Also, I kinda like being tanky more than glass cannon sort...?)

I would look it up myself but I wouldn't even know where to start.

Ice crash maybe ? you can check here : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Skill_gem#Active_Skills

But you can also use a non-cold skill and have part of the damage converted/added to cold with auras, support gems, items, etc. Or use your single target skill and give it AOE with the "Melee Splash Support" gem.

[Ozyton]

Skimming through a couple of the skill gems, I've seen some skills classed as spells that seem to do what I was thinking of (and ice crash looks exactly like what I was describing above, as Sirian said). I am curious though... I read that apparently the elements are tied with one of the three attributes (str, int, dex) and I'm not sure if that's more of a suggestion or what. I was looking at templar since I do like some magic to augment face smashing but if cold related skills/passives(?) are really entrenched in 'dex' territory I might look towards something more lightning, fire, or physical based. I'm mostly just wondering how viable some of these skills are since I don't know if there are some that are just outright trash and some that are 'meta'. Then there's all of those passives I haven't gotten to look at yet.

Of course, still haven't decided if I'm going to try playing again yet, I just got something else to keep me occupied, but the itch to try again might come up at some point.

(Also, melee splash glacial hammer sounds pretty rad)
(Juggernaut seems cool too. So many options...)