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[nenjin]

The Dominus Fight:

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I was with it pretty much until the end. 100% kiting, Temporal Chains, Firestorm. But when Dominus shows up....you have like 2 seconds to DPS him before you need to move, or you get fragged. You spend more time running from him than you do fighting him. Is there a known expectation on Resists? Getting them up to 50, about as much as I can spread across all three, helped. But it's still not quite enough. The exploding zombies are kind of an annoyance, but eventually they get you just through sheer attrition, or bad luck running by the zombie spawner when he's sicked them on you. And his close quarters AoE doesn't seem to be the kind of thing you walk away from. Using cover to block some of his attacks at least keeps you alive, but he teleports around the corners and fills the area with all kinds of shit, ice beams, lightning ground cover....

[kcwong]

This is actually why I like my Split Arrow+Fork+Pierce. The additional arrows will fly until an obstacle, and will devastate any groups. Once I have stable mana in late Ch. 2, I only see half of the enemies I kill.

However, Fork and Pierce won't happen simultaneously. If your arrow pierced, it won't fork. If it forked, it won't pierce. The game chooses one for you randomly.  Same goes for Chain.

That means you took the damage penalty from both all the time, but only enjoy their effects half of the time. LMP/GMP may be a better option.

The Dominus Fight:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I was with it pretty much until the end. 100% kiting, Temporal Chains, Firestorm. But when Dominus shows up....you have like 2 seconds to DPS him before you need to move, or you get fragged. You spend more time running from him than you do fighting him. Is there a known expectation on Resists? Getting them up to 50, about as much as I can spread across all three, helped. But it's still not quite enough. The exploding zombies are kind of an annoyance, but eventually they get you just through sheer attrition, or bad luck running by the zombie spawner when he's sicked them on you. And his close quarters AoE doesn't seem to be the kind of thing you walk away from. Using cover to block some of his attacks at least keeps you alive, but he teleports around the corners and fills the area with all kinds of shit, ice beams, lightning ground cover....

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How much life leech do you have? For a physcial-damage-using class, LL and LGoH on those fodders are what keep you alive. 50 resists all is low - get at least 65. Prioritize lightning, because getting shocked (+30% damage taken from all source, stackable for 3 times) really really hurts. Burning and Frozen/Chilled can be dealt with using flasks.

[Karkov]

The Dominus Fight:

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I was with it pretty much until the end. 100% kiting, Temporal Chains, Firestorm. But when Dominus shows up....you have like 2 seconds to DPS him before you need to move, or you get fragged. You spend more time running from him than you do fighting him. Is there a known expectation on Resists? Getting them up to 50, about as much as I can spread across all three, helped. But it's still not quite enough. The exploding zombies are kind of an annoyance, but eventually they get you just through sheer attrition, or bad luck running by the zombie spawner when he's sicked them on you. And his close quarters AoE doesn't seem to be the kind of thing you walk away from. Using cover to block some of his attacks at least keeps you alive, but he teleports around the corners and fills the area with all kinds of shit, ice beams, lightning ground cover....

Yeah that fight's a bastard:  FINAL BOSS SPOILERS BELOW

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Dominus in his first form is just complete ass, basically the one form of damage he doesn't do is fire, and I'm pretty sure the ghosts are chaos damage.  His "Touch of Divinity" (you know what I'm talking about) is probably his most damaging attack, and you can actually mitigate a lot of that damage solely by running to the edge of the explosion.  His frost chain totems are almost nigh-impossible to dodge or even deal with, so the easiest thing to do with those is just get out of them.  If you can't do that, next easiest thing is to just stack ice resistances.  His ghosts are supposedly lightning damage, but on the Merciless fight he just instantly gibbed me, so I keep assuming they're chaos.  Zombies are some god awful amounts of physical damage that isn't actually blocked by any resistances and you're just hosed on that one.

Resistances at this point should be probably 60+ (I was 77 on all three when I fought him all three times (purity at level 15~ish gives +2 maximum resistances)), and if you're not there you're gonna be hurting.  If you're a ranged character at this point and you don't have ANY resistances, your best bet is to try and run and hope for the best while getting potshots off at his ungodly (heh) shield.  The fight is REALLY unfair though, so probably the easiest (albeit slightly harder) way to cope with this fight is actually to go ahead and group up to fight this guy.  Having him target someone else for anything over three seconds is usually enough time for you to heal enough to take another hit from him.  If you can't heal enough in that short amount of time, remember the fact that whenever you slip to town you heal instantly and fully (including flasks), and if you have multiple portals up you can go back through someone else's portal without using the portal up. 

Basically:  If you're a melee for the first fight, you've got the short end of the stick.  However, for the second form, if you're melee, you're practically golden.

Second form does the acid rain thing that absolutely melts ranged characters on all difficulties, and doesn't do damage when in the orb that spawns around the boss, basically forcing ranged units into melee range with him.  He has the artillery shelling that those Avian Retches have as well, so be careful if you're ranged.  His normal swipes hit multiple people (it's cleave) and has some form of bastardized chaos damage (basically viper strike) that will hurt your energy shield if you're stacking that instead of life.  Otherwise that fight's pretty boring comparatively to the first fight.  At that point I just suggest your melee characters close distance and do their thing.

The only other advice I can really give for this fight is for your team to scatter their portals around, if you've got a team.  If you're soloing him, make sure to place your portals in easy to reach spaces.  Emergency heals are nothing to scoff at, and by this time you've probably amassed a rather hefty collection of scrolls.  Good luck with this fight, you'll need it.

Only thing I forgot to mention, and this can be said to everyone:  For each consecutive member of your team you gain 50% quantity of items, but enemies get 50% extra health for normal, 75% for cruel, and 100% extra health for merciless difficulties.  Just remember that and then determine your own amount of time you want to spend wading through enemies.

[kcwong]

The Dominus Fight:

O:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I was with it pretty much until the end. 100% kiting, Temporal Chains, Firestorm. But when Dominus shows up....you have like 2 seconds to DPS him before you need to move, or you get fragged. You spend more time running from him than you do fighting him. Is there a known expectation on Resists? Getting them up to 50, about as much as I can spread across all three, helped. But it's still not quite enough. The exploding zombies are kind of an annoyance, but eventually they get you just through sheer attrition, or bad luck running by the zombie spawner when he's sicked them on you. And his close quarters AoE doesn't seem to be the kind of thing you walk away from. Using cover to block some of his attacks at least keeps you alive, but he teleports around the corners and fills the area with all kinds of shit, ice beams, lightning ground cover....

Yeah that fight's a bastard:  FINAL BOSS SPOILERS BELOW

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Dominus in his first form is just complete ass, basically the one form of damage he doesn't do is fire, and I'm pretty sure the ghosts are chaos damage.  His "Touch of Divinity" (you know what I'm talking about) is probably his most damaging attack, and you can actually mitigate a lot of that damage solely by running to the edge of the explosion.  His frost chain totems are almost nigh-impossible to dodge or even deal with, so the easiest thing to do with those is just get out of them.  If you can't do that, next easiest thing is to just stack ice resistances.  His ghosts are supposedly lightning damage, but on the Merciless fight he just instantly gibbed me, so I keep assuming they're chaos.  Zombies are some god awful amounts of physical damage that isn't actually blocked by any resistances and you're just hosed on that one.

Resistances at this point should be probably 60+ (I was 77 on all three when I fought him all three times (purity at level 15~ish gives +2 maximum resistances)), and if you're not there you're gonna be hurting.  If you're a ranged character at this point and you don't have ANY resistances, your best bet is to try and run and hope for the best while getting potshots off at his ungodly (heh) shield.  The fight is REALLY unfair though, so probably the easiest (albeit slightly harder) way to cope with this fight is actually to go ahead and group up to fight this guy.  Having him target someone else for anything over three seconds is usually enough time for you to heal enough to take another hit from him.  If you can't heal enough in that short amount of time, remember the fact that whenever you slip to town you heal instantly and fully (including flasks), and if you have multiple portals up you can go back through someone else's portal without using the portal up. 

Basically:  If you're a melee for the first fight, you've got the short end of the stick.  However, for the second form, if you're melee, you're practically golden.

Second form does the acid rain thing that absolutely melts ranged characters on all difficulties, and doesn't do damage when in the orb that spawns around the boss, basically forcing ranged units into melee range with him.  He has the artillery shelling that those Avian Retches have as well, so be careful if you're ranged.  His normal swipes hit multiple people (it's cleave) and has some form of bastardized chaos damage (basically viper strike) that will hurt your energy shield if you're stacking that instead of life.  Otherwise that fight's pretty boring comparatively to the first fight.  At that point I just suggest your melee characters close distance and do their thing.

The only other advice I can really give for this fight is for your team to scatter their portals around, if you've got a team.  If you're soloing him, make sure to place your portals in easy to reach spaces.  Emergency heals are nothing to scoff at, and by this time you've probably amassed a rather hefty collection of scrolls.  Good luck with this fight, you'll need it.

Only thing I forgot to mention, and this can be said to everyone:  For each consecutive member of your team you gain 50% quantity of items, but enemies get 50% extra health for normal, 75% for cruel, and 100% extra health for merciless difficulties.  Just remember that and then determine your own amount of time you want to spend wading through enemies.

In the new leagues that quantity bonus is no longer true... because people used to get a screen full of white items, which is useless and silly. The bonus is tweaked to have more rarity and less quantity by adding more players. After 4 months of testing I think a tweaked version will be applied to Standard as well.

[Aklyon]

You can't even find IIQ in the current 4 month leagues, unless its already built into the item and that item is available there. Pure IIR and group bonuses only for magic find, for experimentation purposes.

[Karkov]

Huh, well crap.  At least it still works for the other two leagues, just disregard the item quantity for the new leagues.

[CognitiveDissonance]

This is actually why I like my Split Arrow+Fork+Pierce. The additional arrows will fly until an obstacle, and will devastate any groups. Once I have stable mana in late Ch. 2, I only see half of the enemies I kill.

However, Fork and Pierce won't happen simultaneously. If your arrow pierced, it won't fork. If it forked, it won't pierce. The game chooses one for you randomly.  Same goes for Chain.

That means you took the damage penalty from both all the time, but only enjoy their effects half of the time. LMP/GMP may be a better option.

Huh. I didn't know they didn't add up like this. I'm mostly okay with this, but I'll have to screw around with the set up.
I couldn't care less about LMP/GMP for bow attacks, though.

[kcwong]

Another thing is that some projectile attacks are 100% auto-piercing - like Spectral Throw and Freezing Pulse. Fork and Chain will never trigger for them.

[nenjin]

Generally my problem wasn't health. I've got enough LL to suffice, and just Firestorming some zombies is enough to refill my flasks.

It's just the insane spike damage that guy can do, and/or getting caught in a zombi-splosion. Guess I'll go farm for some more resists before trying again.

I'm tempted to team up to beat him, but it's kind of a pride thing to accomplish it myself.

Special mentions for Temporal Chains, and I guess really any curse. It's so nice that bosses are at least partially vulnerable to them. Unlike so many games where they pitch debuffs as an option then all the important mobs are all LOLNOPE. Temporal Chains especially I like, because it's a slow that also increases the duration of any debuffs you put on people. Goes great with Firestorm and Ice Nova, either extending the burn or the freeze.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Unlike so many games where they pitch debuffs as an option then all the important mobs are all LOLNOPE.

That's always been a pet peeve of mine. Playing Persona 4 and Chrono Trigger/Cross all last week game me a true hatred of useless 'debuffs' that only work on chaff units.

[nenjin]

That said, I think most boss mobs in PoE have some kind of resistance to curses because I feel like my curses wear off quicker than on normal mobs.

Really though, any game that makes stuff immune to core game mechanics is a huge pet peeve of mine too. Why total immunity? Why not diminishing returns or some other interesting mechanic? Something is still better than nothing over a long enough timeline.

[Karkov]

Hey at least the resistances to lightning and stuff aren't just "IMMUNE."  You know how many people would have serious roadblocks with that?  Sheesh.

[Aklyon]

From the 1.0.0 release patch notes:

Map Bosses now have 60% reduced curse effect (up from 50%).
Act bosses now have 70% reduced curse effect (up from 40%).
Rogue Exiles now have 50% reduced curse effect (up from 0%).

[Karkov]

Rogue Exiles now have 50% reduced curse effect (up from 0%).

Dear God, Xandro Blooddrinker is going to keep giving me hell even when I gear to fight him, isn't he?

For those of you who don't know ol' Xandro... Y'know, I had actually typed up a giant "here's what's gonna happen," but I think you guys would enjoy the surprise as much as I did.

[Xardalas]

I'll suppose I'll just make a guild for us in-game. It seems like everyone wants us to be in one yet no one has made one yet. At least as far as I've read through this thread anyways. The name is Order of Armok's Bloodthirsty Chosen. Send me a tell in-game and I'll add you. Xilionar is the name. ^_^