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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I would not be surprised in the least- I realized a while ago that I made a terrible mistake going to war when I did, limiting my technological and demographic growth. I have the same issue in CIV 4.

My problem is that I do the exact opposite.  I wait until I get EVERY technology possible before I attack.  While effective when it is done, if I ever met a rush player, I would be doomed.

Edit:Although I do manage to get an invincible defense working if given enough time!  And I know how to assault a base with defensive technologies.

[IronyOwl]

Oops. Sorry about that.

Spoiler: Kingdom of Tarr (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="IronyOwl">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="26" y="4"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="9"/>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="1">
      <unittype code="MithS"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="14">
      <building code="univ"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="2" x="23" y="15">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

Maybe Irony is preparing to destroy everyone at once after you have all weakened yourselves with the war?  A strategy that has been proven to work in history.

A war on three fronts would be a fairly bad idea, regardless of how much more advanced I was than the targets.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Maybe Irony is preparing to destroy everyone at once after you have all weakened yourselves with the war?  A strategy that has been proven to work in history.

A war on three fronts would be a fairly bad idea, regardless of how much more advanced I was than the targets.

Of course not!  You take them out one at a time, very quickly!

[Kashyyk]

Yes, once Arcadia dies ,you'll only have to deal with Dunottar at first, and then Illyria and Tesunad will arrive together. But by that point you'd own about half the map, so...

[Vanigo]

Ho. Lee. Shit. I was not expecting that battle to go that way.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Illyria:

27 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (13,10) claimed
Farm built at (7,1)
Cavalry Yard built in Thororaisi
Engineer's Guild built in Megasia Isle
University built in a?µa
Pikemen (24) moved to 1st Imperial Transport Group
Illyria army 79 is empty and is disbanded
Illyria army 78 moves to (14,11)
Illyria army 77 moves to (13,11)
1st Imperial Transport Group moves to (11,10)


Tesunad:

33 food used to gain 1 free population
33 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (1,9) claimed
Road built at (5,16)
Shinute grows to size 5
Hanging Gardens built in Ayikke
Engineer's Guild built in Burran
Horse Archers raised in Hatoyan
Horse Archers raised in Naite
Army Tesunad army 93 created
Tesunad army 93 renamed to 3rd Tesunad Army
5th Ashigaru Cavalry moved to 3rd Tesunad Army
1st Nomad Horsemen moved to 3rd Tesunad Army
1st Samurai Cavalry moved to 3rd Tesunad Army
2nd Nomad Horsemen moved to 3rd Tesunad Army
Army Tesunad army 94 created
Tesunad army 94 renamed to 2nd Tesunad Fleet
2nd Transport moved to 2nd Tesunad Fleet
Longboat (74) renamed to HMS Suncatcher
2nd Tesunad Fleet renamed to 3rd Tesunad Fleet
Battle fought at (16,18):
   3rd Tesunad Army attacking (4 units)
   Arcadia army 82 defending (1 units)
   1st Samurai Cavalry destroyed
   5th Ashigaru Cavalry destroyed
   1st Nomad Horsemen destroyed
   2nd Nomad Horsemen destroyed
   Defenders win
1st Tesunad Fleet moves to (12,18)
Tesunad army 86 moves to (8,19)
3rd Tesunad Fleet moves to (11,15)
2nd Tesunad Fleet moves to (4,17)


Arcadia:

Grand Bazzar built in The Tranquil City
Lancers raised in Stonehaven
Pikemen raised in The Peaceful Town
Emergency time! grows to size 3
Pikemen (75) moved to Arcadia army 80
Arcadia army 87 disbanded
Pikemen (76) moved to Arcadia army 81
Arcadia army 88 disbanded
Pikemen (76) moved to Arcadia army 54
Pikemen (76) moved to Arcadia army 81
Battle fought at (16,18):
   3rd Tesunad Army attacking (4 units)
   Arcadia army 82 defending (1 units)
   1st Samurai Cavalry destroyed
   5th Ashigaru Cavalry destroyed
   1st Nomad Horsemen destroyed
   2nd Nomad Horsemen destroyed
   Defenders win
Arcadia army 81 moves to (19,11)
Battle fought at (17,15):
   Arcadia army 80 attacking (2 units)
   3rd Cavalry Division, 1st Cavalry Division defending (2 units) with defense bonus 25%
   1st Lancer destroyed
   3rd Lancers destroyed
   Attackers win


Tarr:

30 food used to gain 1 free population
30 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (26,4) claimed
Gall grows to size 6
Dervishes raised in Tarr
University built in Sall
Tarr army 2 moves to (26,12)


Dunottar:

26 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (19,11) claimed
Mage's Guild built in Dunottar's Revenge
Foundry built in Dunottar Castle
Smithy built in Craignish Castle
Battering Ram (80) renamed to The Boar
The Boar moved to Dunottar army 71
Dunottar army 92 disbanded
4th Lancer moved to Southern Wing
Dunottar army 75 disbanded
Axemen (79) renamed to 5th Axemen
Dunottar army 91 renamed to 2nd Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Division moves to (17,15)
1st Cavalry Division moves to (17,15)
2nd Cavalry Division moves to (18,18)
Battle fought at (17,15):
   Arcadia army 80 attacking (2 units)
   3rd Cavalry Division, 1st Cavalry Division defending (2 units) with defense bonus 25%
   1st Lancer destroyed
   3rd Lancers destroyed
   Attackers win
2nd Infantry Division moves to (18,6)
Dunottar army 71 moves to (20,8)

Spoiler: Combat details (click to show/hide)

Battle fought at (16,18):
   3rd Tesunad Army attacking (4 units)
   Arcadia army 82 defending (1 units)

Turn 1
Turn 2
Turn 3
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) counters a charge by 1st Samurai Cavalry for 7 damage
   1st Samurai Cavalry charges Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 2 damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 1st Samurai Cavalry for 4 damage
Turn 4
   5th Ashigaru Cavalry attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 1 damage
   1st Samurai Cavalry attacks Halberdiers (71) for 5 damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 2 damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 1st Samurai Cavalry for 3 damage
   1st Samurai Cavalry destroyed
Turn 5
   5th Ashigaru Cavalry attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 3 damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 5th Ashigaru Cavalry for 3 damage
Turn 6
   5th Ashigaru Cavalry attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 5th Ashigaru Cavalry for 5 damage
Turn 7
   5th Ashigaru Cavalry attacks Halberdiers (71) for 1 damage
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 5th Ashigaru Cavalry for 5 damage
   5th Ashigaru Cavalry destroyed
Turn 8
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 1 damage
Turn 9
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 1 damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
Turn 10
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 1 damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 1st Nomad Horsemen for 5 damage
Turn 11
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 1 damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 1st Nomad Horsemen for 4 damage
Turn 12
   1st Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) for 1 damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 1st Nomad Horsemen for 2 damage
   1st Nomad Horsemen destroyed
Turn 13
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 2nd Nomad Horsemen for 5 damage
Turn 14
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 2nd Nomad Horsemen for 2 damage
Turn 15
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 2nd Nomad Horsemen but fails to do damage
Turn 16
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 2nd Nomad Horsemen for 2 damage
Turn 17
   2nd Nomad Horsemen attacks Halberdiers (71) but fails to do damage
   Halberdiers (71) attacks 2nd Nomad Horsemen for 5 damage
   2nd Nomad Horsemen destroyed
   Defenders win


Battle fought at (17,15):
   Arcadia army 80 attacking (2 units)
   3rd Cavalry Division, 1st Cavalry Division defending (2 units) with defense bonus 25%

Turn 1
Turn 2
Turn 3
   Pikemen (69) counters a charge by 3rd Lancers for 2 damage
   3rd Lancers charges Pikemen (69) but fails to do damage
   Pikemen (69) counters a charge by 1st Lancer for 6 damage
   1st Lancer charges Pikemen (69) for 1 damage
Turn 4
   Pikemen (69) attacks 1st Lancer but fails to do damage
   Pikemen (75) attacks 3rd Lancers but fails to do damage
   3rd Lancers attacks Pikemen (69) for 2 damage
   1st Lancer attacks Pikemen (75) for 2 damage
Turn 5
   Pikemen (69) attacks 1st Lancer for 3 damage
   Pikemen (75) attacks 3rd Lancers for 1 damage
   3rd Lancers attacks Pikemen (75) for 1 damage
   1st Lancer attacks Pikemen (69) but fails to do damage
Turn 6
   Pikemen (69) attacks 3rd Lancers for 3 damage
   Pikemen (75) attacks 3rd Lancers for 5 damage
   3rd Lancers attacks Pikemen (75) for 4 damage
   1st Lancer attacks Pikemen (69) but fails to do damage
Turn 7
   Pikemen (69) attacks 1st Lancer for 5 damage
   1st Lancer destroyed
   Pikemen (75) attacks 3rd Lancers but fails to do damage
   3rd Lancers attacks Pikemen (75) but fails to do damage
Turn 8
   Pikemen (69) attacks 3rd Lancers for 5 damage
   3rd Lancers destroyed
   Attackers win

Game state

[lemon10]

Shit. I was not expecting that, doom's position just got about twice as good (since kaks's calvary won't be able to just pick off his production tiles and whittle him down).
Oh well, here is my semi-boring turn.

Spoiler: Turn (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="lemon10">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="13" y="10">
      <improvement code="exPast"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="6" y="10">
      <improvement code="quarr"/>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="18"/>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="4">
      <building code="aqueduct"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="11">
      <building code="hanG"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="78" x="14" y="11"/>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="77" x="13" y="11"/>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="9" x="11" y="10">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Kashyyk]

Holy shit fuck.  I tested the battle a couple of times, but I never got that. I really don't do very well when attacking, do I?

Spoiler: Empire of Tesunad (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="3" y="22"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="1" y="11"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="3">
      <unittype code="hbow"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="7">
      <unittype code="hbow"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="21">
      <building code="hanG"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="17">
      <building code="market"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="15">
      <building code="eng"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="95" x="5" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="81"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="52"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="52" x="5" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="81"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="95"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="95" x="5" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="81"/>
      <newname>1st Nomad Archers</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="96" x="7" y="16">
      <targetunit unitid="82"/>
      <newname>2nd Nomad Archers</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="85" x="5" y="21">
      <targetunit unitid="73"/>
      <newname>2nd No Dachi Samurai</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="86" x="8" y="19">
      <newname>4th Tesunad Fleet</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="86" x="8" y="19">
      <newname>4th Tesuni Fleet</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="30" x="12" y="18">
      <newname>1st Tesuni Fleet</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="94" x="11" y="15">
      <newname>3rd Tesuni Fleet</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="1" x="4" y="17">
      <newname>2nd Tesuni Fleet</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="57" x="1" y="8">
      <newname>2nd Tesuni Army</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="52" x="5" y="12">
      <newname>1st Tesuni Army</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="85" x="5" y="21">
      <newname>3rd Tesuni Army</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="nArmy" armyid="Kashyyk100" x="12" y="18"/>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="Kashyyk100" x="12" y="18">
      <newname>4th Tesuni Fleet</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="30" x="12" y="18">
      <targetunit unitid="46"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="Kashyyk100"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="86" x="8" y="19">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="94" x="11" y="15">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="95" x="5" y="12">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="96" x="7" y="16">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="1" x="4" y="17">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="30" x="12" y="18">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="Kashyyk100" x="12" y="18">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Doomblade187]

The RNG has smiled upon me... I'll get my turn up late this evening or tomorrow.

[Vanigo]

Holy shit fuck.  I tested the battle a couple of times, but I never got that. I really don't do very well when attacking, do I?

He really got stupid-lucky. Take a look at that battle log. First round of contact, 7-point chargebreak and a 4-point normal hit on the same unit. Next round, lancers gone. Three attacks to knock off those lancers isn't really that unlikely, but focusing on them like that was a serious stroke of luck. Once it was just the attack 6 horsemen and the attack 5 archers, the defense 7 halberdiers (who had only taken 5 points of damage total to that point) were in decent shape.

[Sheb]

My internet access will be limited for the next week. Auto me please vanigo.

[Vanigo]

Okay. That leaves Doom and Irony.

[lemon10]

BUMP FOR THE BUMP GOD!

[lemon10]

Hm... When I said "bump for the bump god" I should have more specifically said "Hurry up and post your turns already Doom and Irony".

[Vanigo]

PMs sent to Irony and Doom.

[Doomblade187]

Um, the link you gave me has the admin interface now, and I can't get a turn. Can you put up an HTML-wrapped player-interface?