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[lemon10]

Yeah, but it also requires A) A pop 6 city (which Sheb doesn't have) B) Like 4 supporting building that all require quite a lot of stone and regent (problems for both Irony and Sheb), C) Like 4 turns to build those supporting buildings (and far more if you don't already have a pop 6 city) and most importantly D) ALL FLYING UNITS SHALL FALL BENEATH THE MIGHT OF MY (EVENTUAL) SKY KNIGHTS!

[Vanigo]

Balance question: Why does the inspiration building for iron/horses give 2 iron, while the inspiration building for regents gives only 1 regent?
I could see if regents were significantly rarer, but the ratio (at least on this map) is 9 iron/horse to 7 regent sources, and getting regent is significantly easier (since you don't need to build a building to get it, and thus don't need a city anywhere nearby). I could see if it was significantly more expensive to build the iron/horse buildings (inspiration wise, since you don't really care about the minor costs of the other buildings while building a 30 inspiration building), but as it is it seems that it's a little unbalanced.

As a matter of fact, I have already concluded that resource gathering is screwy, and intend to change all resource tiles and inspiration buildings to 1/turn. I also intend to double all wood costs - I want it to be easy to get enough wood with a little effort; it's currently more like "you get more wood than you could possibly use without even trying". Far too late to do that in this game, though. The original reasoning was that reagents were a more valuable resource, and easier to do without, but...

Yeah, but it also requires A) A pop 6 city (which Sheb doesn't have) B) Like 4 supporting building that all require quite a lot of stone and regent (problems for both Irony and Sheb), C) Like 4 turns to build those supporting buildings (and far more if you don't already have a pop 6 city) and most importantly D) ALL FLYING UNITS SHALL FALL BENEATH THE MIGHT OF MY (EVENTUAL) SKY KNIGHTS!

Six buildings and a turn spent growing to size 6, by my count.

Edit: Oh, I guess I should auto Sheb again...

[Vanigo]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Illyria:

28 food used to gain 1 free population
Pegaus Town grows to size 3
Foundry built in Gorosthaen
Thororaisi grows to size 6
Hanging Gardens built in Riam
Docks built in a?ľa
Hanging Gardens built in Megasia Isle
Illyria army 78 moves to (13,12)
1st Militia moves to (7,7)
Illyria army 76 moves to (10,8)
1st Imperial SDG moves to (8,8)
Illyria army 77 moves to (13,12)


Tesunad:

34 food used to gain 1 free population
35 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (2,8) claimed
Hunter's Camp built at (3,22)
Quarry built at (1,9)
Foundry built in Naite
Marketplace built in Burran
Docks built in Ayikke
Archery Range built in Shinute
1st Nomad Archers moved to Tesunad army 96
Tesunad army 95 disbanded
Tesunad army 103 moves to (9,16)
Tesunad army 96 moves to (9,16)
Tesunad army 104 moves to (7,16)
4th Tesuni Fleet moves to (9,17)
1st Tesuni Fleet moves to (17,21)
2nd Tesuni Fleet moves to (8,18)


Arcadia:

Tile (19,11) claimed
Shipyard built in The Tranquil City
Axemen raised in Stonehaven
Apothecary built in The Peaceful Town
Axemen (88) moved to Arcadia army 54
Arcadia army 105 disbanded
Pikemen (76) moved to Arcadia army 54
Arcadia army 100 disbanded
Arcadia army 54 renamed to Arcadian Avengers
Army Arcadia army 108 created
Axemen (77) moved to Arcadia army 108
Arcadia army 74 renamed to Arcadian Home Guard
Arcadia army 108 renamed to Travel Group 1
Arcadia army 81 moves to (20,11)
Travel Group 1 moves to (16,18)
Arcadia army 80 moves to (20,11)
Arcadia army 98 moves to (18,16)
Arcadia army 82 moves to (15,19)
Arcadia army 101 moves to (18,14)


Tarr:

31 food used to gain 1 free population
32 food used to gain 1 free population
Hunter's Camp built at (27,4)
Tile (27,16) claimed
Charmcrafters built in Tarr
Docks built in Sall
Archery Range built in Gall
Library built in Voll


Dunottar:

27 food used to gain 1 free population
Road built at (17,5)
Quarry built at (15,3)
Tile (15,5) claimed
Tile (15,6) claimed
Magicians raised in Dunottar's Revenge
Swordsmen raised in Dunottar Castle
2nd Infantry Division moves to (21,10)
Dunottar army 106 moves to (18,6)
Dunottar army 107 moves to (18,6)
Dunottar army 71 moves to (21,10)

Game state

[Doomblade187]

We are doing this. Also, thank you for autoing Sheb, Vanigo- you just made my life a whole lot easier, in a way.

Spoiler: Arcadia: Sheb, it begins. (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Doomblade187">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="22" y="20">
      <improvement code="hunt"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="16" y="17">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="2">
      <unittype code="gboat"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="6">
      <building code="found"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="109" x="20" y="11">
      <targetunit unitid="91"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="54"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="109" x="20" y="11"/>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="81" x="20" y="11">
      <targetunit unitid="70"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="54"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="81" x="20" y="11"/>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="80" x="20" y="11">
      <targetunit unitid="69"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="54"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="80" x="20" y="11"/>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="54" x="20" y="11">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="101" x="18" y="14">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="82" x="15" y="19">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="108" x="16" y="18">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

No, seriously, thank you.

[lemon10]

Yeehs, I don't think that you should have autoed him two turns in a row (although he did give you permission I guess).

Spoiler: YAHAHAHA, MY SKY KNIGHTS SHALL SOON (for large values of soon) PATROL THE SKY!, FLEE WHILE YOU CAN YOU LANDLUBBING MORTALS... I mean... Uh... Ahem, Turn (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="lemon10">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="7" y="8">
      <improvement code="quarr"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="13" y="11"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="11">
      <building code="shipY"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="4">
      <building code="mithF"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="5">
      <unittype code="sword"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="19">
      <building code="libr"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="77" x="13" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="21"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="9"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="78" x="13" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="18"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="9"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="9" x="13" y="12">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="4" x="7" y="7">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="25" x="8" y="8">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="76" x="10" y="8">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

I want to trade Kash 9 iron for 15 reagents.

Also, the request for the stone is still open if anyone is willing to trade (looking at you doomblade, since you are the only one with stone reserves).

[Doomblade187]

I would like to trade stone for food or money. If your are agreeable to this, please tell me your rate.

[lemon10]

3 food each or 4.5 money each.

[Doomblade187]

5 stone for food, 4 stone for money. Deal?

[lemon10]

So you will trade me:
5 stone for 15 food and 4 stone for 18 money?
If that is what you are saying then deal.

[Doomblade187]

Yes, that is what I am proposing. I accept.

[lemon10]

Vanigo, I wish to trade doomblade 15 food and 18 money for 9 stone.

[Kashyyk]

Spoiler: Empire of Tesunad (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="1" y="7"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="2" y="7"/>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="2" y="8">
      <improvement code="hunt"/>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="3">
      <building code="cavY"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="21">
      <building code="dock"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="7">
      <building code="univ"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="15">
      <building code="stabl"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="103" x="9" y="16">
      <targetunit unitid="86"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="94"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="96" x="9" y="16">
      <targetunit unitid="82"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="94"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="96" x="9" y="16">
      <targetunit unitid="81"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="94"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="103" x="9" y="16"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="96" x="9" y="16"/>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="94" x="9" y="16">
      <targetunit unitid="86"/>
      <newname>3rd Nomad Archers</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="104" x="7" y="16">
      <targetunit unitid="87"/>
      <newname>4th Nomad Archers</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="30" x="17" y="21">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="1" x="8" y="18">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="86" x="9" y="17">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="102" x="14" y="20">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Vanigo]

We are doing this. Also, thank you for autoing Sheb, Vanigo- you just made my life a whole lot easier, in a way.

No, seriously, thank you.

Oh, don't worry; thanks to my understanding of the combat mechanics, I know how to make it harder again. It's completely crazy and you will never guess it. Probably can't win that battle, but you're going to take way more damage than you expect.

Unless Sheb comes back and doesn't ask for advice, anyway.

[Doomblade187]

?? I knew that the battle was a bit harder than I expected when I tested it, but can you PM me how after the fact? I won't change my orders.

EDIT: On second hand, don't. I'll figure it out.

[lemon10]

I CALL THEE BY THY NAME, IRONYOWL, IRONYOWL, IRONYOWL. THRICE THEE HAVE BEEN CALLED, AND THRICE THEE HAVE BEEN SUMMONED, I COMPEL THEE COME AND POST THY TURN.

Doom, the battle isn't in the bag for you *quite* yet.
You will probably win (unless what Vanigo does is smart enough to get your units dead), but the first time I ran it you lost quite noticeably (he had 5 units left, and I didn't even do anything clever like Vanigo is planning on).