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[Kashyyk]

Seeing as JF has decided to tell everyone...

Yes, I am declaring war on you Sheb. Might as well grab some land before someone else gets there.

[Sheb]

Well, maybe I was wrong.

But we'll fight to the last man, woman and child! Generations to come will remember the last stand of the House of Dunottar, and by God, every single acre of our land will be paid in blood!

[Johnfalcon99977]

Well, maybe I was wrong.

But we'll fight to the last man, woman and child! Generations to come will remember the last stand of the House of Dunottar, and by God, every single acre of our land will be paid in blood!

For gods sake, shut up and die. Nobody cares about your fucking fluff.

[Sheb]

Say the man that went ballistic because I changed my name from Duchy of Dunottar to Grand Duchy of Dunottar. :p


EDIT: I'd post my orders now, but for some reason nothing happen when I press "Load" on the player interface. Must be something to do with my computer, since it's working fine for the others (It's almost 10 years old). I'll post it from the library computer tomorrow.

[Doomblade187]

JohnFalcon- I notice that you have claimed the entire northern half of my continent. I don not accept this, as while I respect your office as ruler of your lands, I am spending my troops lives for that land- you are not. Therefore, I must lay claim to that area- me and IronyOwl have already figured out our disputes over borders. Speaking of which, Kashyyk, I have already claimed the smaller island to the Southeast, negotiating with IronyOwl.

Oh, and Sheb- I've been planning that betrayal for a while. The original plan was to act like I was defending against JohnFalcon, and then backstab you, but as you see, that changed. I do respect your kingdom, but I feel that your recent expansion has threatened the future of my nation. If you would like to discuss surrender terms anytime in the future, I will be more than willing to bring an end to this fruitless war and protect you from other aggressors. I will also spare your people from senseless bloodshed.

EDIT: IronyOwl, I realize that you are worried about me claiming undue amounts of land- I respect that. I do not plan to settle cities in the center of our shared continent- I feel no need for that area. I plan to make as Sheb did in his expansion, and bypass the middle area- I'm interested in the north, not the middle. In fact, should you choose to establish a city in the middle of our shared continent, then I would have no complaint, providing it is not too close to my other cities.

[IronyOwl]

Does death mana have an use now?

With a cathedral, it can be used to build a Chapel of Death, which then allows Priests of Death, Skeletons, and Ghouls. No clue what those are or how much they cost.

EDIT: IronyOwl, I realize that you are worried about me claiming undue amounts of land- I respect that. I do not plan to settle cities in the center of our shared continent- I feel no need for that area. I plan to make as Sheb did in his expansion, and bypass the middle area- I'm interested in the north, not the middle. In fact, should you choose to establish a city in the middle of our shared continent, then I would have no complaint, providing it is not too close to my other cities.

Well, what do you mean by "middle?" I mean, you've got Stonehaven and that river to the west of it, which I'd consider middle-south, so unless you're planning on abandoning those I'm not sure what middle is left, much less what's left that isn't "too close" to one of your other cities.

[Johnfalcon99977]

JohnFalcon- I notice that you have claimed the entire northern half of my continent. I don not accept this, as while I respect your office as ruler of your lands, I am spending my troops lives for that land- you are not. Therefore, I must lay claim to that area- me and IronyOwl have already figured out our disputes over borders. Speaking of which, Kashyyk, I have already claimed the smaller island to the Southeast, negotiating with IronyOwl.

You assume that I do not plan on any kind of contribuation to the war effort at all. You assume I can perform tasks far faster then I can in reality. I do not know what you have worked out with IronyOwl, but from my view, this is what you would get in the land claims you seem to want to propose:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And for some reason, I can't just let that fly.

[Doomblade187]

You overestimate my claims- I plan on avoiding the middle of my continent due to a lack of interest on my part, I do not want the miniscule island with the death mana- I leave that to you, and I am leaving all the islands other than the smaller Southeastern island. I am not that power-hungry.

[Vanigo]

Does death mana have an use now?

With a cathedral, it can be used to build a Chapel of Death, which then allows Priests of Death, Skeletons, and Ghouls. No clue what those are or how much they cost.

You know, you could fire up admin mode and take a look at some of these things.
Priests of Death, like every tier 3 caster, are pretty potent. They debuff every living enemy on the battlefield, and permanently debuff anyone they hit - the only permanent debuff in the game, in fact. Plus, you know, good combat stats. Skeletons are kind of interesting. They're only as strong as axemen, but they cost a grand total of zero labor and one money. Ghouls are tougher and somewhat more expensive.

Other tier 3 casters are also pretty sweet. Priests of life buff everyone's defense and resistance, heal, and weaken enemy undead. Air mages buff your archers' range, debuff enemy archers' range, and, starting at level 3, can fly. Hydromancers buff resistance (a lot) and weaken and slow enemies they hit. Pyromancers are surprisingly team-oriented in their destructiveness; they debuff resistance and buff attack. Earth mages have the strongest magic attack in the game, and buff defense. (Some of these abilities don't kick in until level 3, incidentally.)

I think priests of life and pyromancers are probably the best, but that's just a gut feeling. And there's other fun stuff that mana can get you in the late game, too. Air mana is needed for airships and lightning skiffs, earth mana gets you the only siege unit with better than 1 speed, life mana scores you paladins, fire mana has drakes...

[Kashyyk]

Do you mean the swamp with the reagents Doomblade?

*Looks at map* Ooh, I have earth and Life mana to play with then.

[Johnfalcon99977]

You overestimate my claims- I plan on avoiding the middle of my continent due to a lack of interest on my part, I do not want the miniscule island with the death mana- I leave that to you, and I am leaving all the islands other than the smaller Southeastern island. I am not that power-hungry.

Then you are naive to think I can walk away from an arrangement which leaves me with little to nothing to gain. I will be taking the Northern end of Cimmeria, if only to make sure I can take some gain from this war.

[Sheb]

Guys, you could at least wait for the war to start for real before fighting between yourselves. Now, to do my turn...


Edit:

Spoiler: Orders of the Slightly Less Grand Duchy of Dunottar (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Sheb">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="17" y="2"/>
    <tileorder type="bCity" x="16" y="4">
      <cityname>Dunottar's Revenge</cityname>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="17" y="4"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="12">
      <building code="trnF"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="3" x="18" y="6">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="18" x="18" y="4">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Vanigo]

I'm going to be busy this weekend, so if everyone gets their turns in quickly, don't be surprised if there's a delay.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Illyria:

16 food used to gain 1 free population
a?µa grows to size 3
Pikemen raised in Gorosthaen
Illyria army 16 moves to (8,4)
Illyria army 4 moves to (7,8)
Illyria army 9 moves to (9,4)


Tesunad:

18 food used to gain 1 free population
18 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (2,9) claimed
Tile (4,12) claimed
Quarry built at (5,13)
Road built at (7,15)
Road built at (6,14)
Axemen raised in Hatoyan
Axemen (16) moved to Tesunad army 1
Tesunad army 17 disbanded
Axemen (16) renamed to No Dachi Samurai
Tesunad army 5 moves to (4,10)


Arcadia:

16 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (13,11) claimed
Tile (14,11) claimed
Stonehaven grows to size 3
Lancers raised in The Peaceful Town
Mage's Guild built in The Tranquil City
Arcadia army 8 moves to (21,11)
Arcadia army 7 moves to (12,11)
Arcadia army 12 moves to (20,21)
Arcadia army 10 moves to (19,11)
Arcadia army 6 has razed Dunottar's village on (16,11)!


Tarr:

17 food used to gain 1 free population
City Sall built at (25,18)
Tile (25,17) claimed
Stables built in Tarr


Dunottar:

18 food used to gain 1 free population
18 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (17,2) claimed
City Dunottar's Revenge built at (16,4)
Road built at (17,4)
Training Field built in Craignish Castle
Dunottar army 3 moves to (19,7)
Dunottar army 18 moves to (18,6)
Arcadia has razed your village on (16,11)!

Game state

[Kashyyk]

Spoiler: The Empire of Tesunad (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="4" y="21"/>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="5" y="11">
      <improvement code="horseI"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="1" y="8"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="7">
      <building code="stabl"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="3">
      <unittype code="hmen"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="20" x="5" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="19"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="1"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="1" x="5" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="16"/>
      <newname>1st No Dachi Samurai</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="1" x="5" y="12">
      <targetunit unitid="19"/>
      <newname>2nd No Dachi Samurai</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="1" x="5" y="12">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Doomblade187]

Spoiler: Arcadia (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Doomblade187">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="21" y="21"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="10">
      <building code="apoth"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="2">
      <building code="temple"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="21" x="18" y="16">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="10" x="19" y="11"/>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="8" x="21" y="11"/>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="6" x="16" y="11">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="14" x="17" y="14">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="12" x="20" y="21">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

I've asked Vanigo to auto my empire for a week.