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Varjo

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Stone description
« on: May 06, 2012, 03:19:07 pm »

Fortress mode: Would be great to read stone descriptions at status -> stone.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 07:49:02 pm »

Now we finally know what bauxitemicrocline looks like, so we can worship it.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 08:54:46 pm »

We kind of already know what microcline looks like, just google image search "microcline".

But still, I would like to have the ability to raw-define descriptions of most items and materials.  It seems like a very easy thing to do, so I'm a little confused by why only creatures get descriptions.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 09:01:27 pm »

actually having the ability to put descriptions on anything would make modders very happy, as they could put a text based description of things they add in game.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 09:35:15 pm »

This idea seems SO SIMPLE... but it's really powerful.

I wonder if all the tokens derive from a base "class" that could have a description added to it, instead.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 11:31:03 am »

But still, I would like to have the ability to raw-define descriptions of most items and materials.  It seems like a very easy thing to do, so I'm a little confused by why only creatures get descriptions.

I'm a little confused while skeleton's or corpses don't say what species of creature they came from.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 03:58:35 pm »

We kind of already know what microcline looks like, just google image search "microcline".

But still, I would like to have the ability to raw-define descriptions of most items and materials.  It seems like a very easy thing to do, so I'm a little confused by why only creatures get descriptions.

Maybe Toady is afraid that we'll make a realism mod where every single rock has a description like "Microcline (KAlSi3O8) is an important igneous rock-forming tectosilicate mineral. It is a potassium-rich alkali feldspar." ;-)

Kidding.  It would be a nice idea.  Then more people might know what the heck all those weird rocks are.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 09:54:26 pm »

That mod wouldn't take much effort.  Just move the comments down a line and put [DESCRIPTION: in front of them.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 03:27:16 am »

All of my yes. All of it.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2012, 09:49:53 am »

Also Prefstrings would be good too.  Dwarves already like certain minerals, it would be intersting to know why.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2012, 10:17:08 am »

Actually, I'd really like them more on plants - I'd like to have a description of what some of these fictional underground crops and mushroom trees are really like.  We can figure out what real-world minerals are like since, hey, Wikipedia's in my hotbar.  I still don't know what a quarry bush looks like, and if it's a mushroom or a plant that needs no sunlight.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 12:51:17 pm »

I would like the ability to add a description to plants too.  I have used my imagination though, based on what plants they share a tile with.

I Imagine most underground plants as fungus, quarry bushes as lichens growing on a boulder like moss, and underground grass(modded) as a part of a gigantic fungus.  The blood thorn trees and the glumprongs I imagine as a rooted underground treents, tunnel tube as preserved(not fossilized) wood, fungiwood as a tree that's been overtaken with fungus,  and I imagine all the capped trees as Woody Mushrooms.

Even many of the aboveground crops are fictional as well,  I think of many of them as being related to real plants, and the only difference being where the raws differ from the plant I think they are.
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 12:57:52 pm »

The problem with "quarry bushes are a fungus" are that they have leaves, and have nuts (rock nuts), which are apparently similar to peanuts in that, when crushed, they have an oil in them that is usable as some sort of vegetable oil for making soaps.

These all describe plant-like attributes, not fungal ones.

Besides that, bubble bulbs and the eyeball grass from evil biomes have literal bubbles and eyeballs.  Feather trees literally have feathers. 

I get more and more the impression that quarry bushes are just magic bushes that grow underground and have rock-like nuts and possibly look somewhat similar to a mound of rock. 
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Re: Stone description
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 03:00:16 pm »

The problem with "quarry bushes are a fungus" are that they have leaves, and have nuts (rock nuts), which are apparently similar to peanuts in that, when crushed, they have an oil in them that is usable as some sort of vegetable oil for making soaps.

These all describe plant-like attributes, not fungal ones.

Besides that, bubble bulbs and the eyeball grass from evil biomes have literal bubbles and eyeballs.  Feather trees literally have feathers. 

I get more and more the impression that quarry bushes are just magic bushes that grow underground and have rock-like nuts and possibly look somewhat similar to a mound of rock.

I have no problem with quarry bushes being a fungus. There are many unicellular molds that produce significant quantities of lipids and other oily hydrocarbons, and many larger fungi can assume complex and fanciful shapes; just substitute "lamillus" for "leaf" and "basidium" for "nut".

Feather trees really remind me of Peacock trees in the story "The Trees of Pride" by G. K. Chesterton, although his trees would be more suited to evil zones than to good ones:

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They say that the hermit St. Securis, living there among trees, grew to love them like companions; since, though great giants with many arms like Briareus, they were the mildest and most blameless of the creatures; they did not devour like the lions, but rather opened their arms to all the little birds. And he prayed that they might be loosened from time to time to walk like other things. And the trees were moved upon the prayers of Securis, as they were at the songs of Orpheus. The men of the desert were stricken from afar with fear, seeing the saint walking with a walking grove, like a schoolmaster with his boys. For the trees were thus freed under strict conditions of discipline. They were to return at the sound of the hermit's bell, and, above all, to copy the wild beasts in walking only to destroy and devour nothing.

Well, it is said that one of the trees heard a voice that was not the saint's; that in the warm green twilight of one summer evening it became conscious of something sitting and speaking in its branches in the guise of a great bird, and it was that which once spoke from a tree in the guise of a great serpent. As the voice grew louder among its murmuring leaves the tree was torn with a great desire to stretch out and snatch at the birds that flew harmlessly about their nests, and pluck them to pieces. Finally, the tempter filled the tree-top with his own birds of pride, the starry pageant of the peacocks. And the spirit of the brute overcame the spirit of the tree, and it rent and consumed the blue-green birds till not a plume was left, and returned to the quiet tribe of trees.

But they say that when spring came all the other trees put forth leaves, but this put forth feathers of a strange hue and pattern. And by that monstrous assimilation the saint knew of the sin, and he rooted that one tree to the earth with a judgment, so that evil should fall on any who removed it again."
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