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Loud Whispers

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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2012, 04:57:16 am »

Build a wall over the river, above the tunnel. Drop It in.

It'll deconstruct upon impact. Nothing'll happen.

Corai

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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2012, 04:59:43 am »

Build a wall over the river, above the tunnel. Drop It in.

It'll deconstruct upon impact. Nothing'll happen.

Indeed.


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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2012, 05:10:00 am »

And Loud Whispers just got a auto-changing avatar, win.

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I've had it for... Well I think the entire existence of this account.

kenzosan

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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2012, 06:59:15 am »

Depends on how far away it is - if you have a volcano, you should be fine as long as you take care where you dig. If you have to bring it up from the magma sea, though, you will kill your framerate.
yeah, i was wondering about that. I haven't struck magma yet, though i've found a cavern. How deep would you usually go to get to magma?

Underneath the third cavern.
Ho damn, there's that much more?
This is the first time i've really dug that far. Nubbly me.
do caverns always have forgotten beasts? i'm sorta afraid to venture in just yet.

Since civs never hunt FBs, yes. Beware, some may be cuddly, like a fluffy wambler made of sugar. Or a Lion humanoid beast made of pure-steel that shoots brain-rotting blood.

Oh, and when the miners are praised for discovering the holy metal, be sure to dig up as much as you can before it's too late... ;)
lol, then the circus comes and we all have some extra fun.
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 07:02:11 am »

Corai Kenzosan, What's the river size?
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 07:40:47 am by peskyninja »
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 07:21:47 am »

Corai, What's the river size?

about 4-5 wide.
I've been thinking about channeling it into the cavern in order to stop the flow, as well as piss off all those hippos causing me trouble.
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 07:59:53 am »

well that didn't work. It went into the cavern alright, but the river isn't decreasing in volume at all. At least the cave now has a nice waterfall.
I can't dig out the map edges, or build walls to them, so i'm kinda stuck now.

EDIT: and now it's caused some part of the cavern to cave in. the screen jumps back every 40 secs. 3 seconds. GAAAAH!
I can't do anything now, so i'm starting a new fortress with the same objective in mind.
ISN'T THIS FUN?!?!
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 08:07:25 am by kenzosan »
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Morpha

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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2012, 10:23:25 am »

You must conquer the raging river,
with all the force of your magma!
with all the strength of a dwarven miner,
mysterious as the pump stack to the moon!
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2012, 11:35:59 am »

You must conquer the raging river,
with all the force of your magma!
with all the strength of a dwarven miner,
mysterious as the pump stack to the moon!
TO BE A MAN! er.. DWARF!
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2012, 12:09:29 pm »

next time
try a 2 wide row of grates

OOOOOOO
O#####D
O#####O
OOOOOOO

right under the river.  let the water drop one or two levels below this.
(dig level one, then channel out level one to dig out level two below, remove ramps. no fuzz)

from the side:
77    river
##   grates
__    retracting bridge
_________#   dug to edge fortifications.

then let the dropped water go in a 5..7 wide path to the map-edge.
install a retracting bridge under the grates so that you can stop re-routing the water.

the bigger the drop, the greater the pressure and the faster any loot caught up in the flow will move, so
(not quite here, but maybe elsewhere,) consider adding a loot catcher into the path to the edge like so:

_________#   dug to edge fortifications.
OOOOO_O_#  the first _ would be a 1 wide channel with a retracting bridge on top through which you could later get to any loot even while the river is diverted.

(i make a stack of tiny rooms somewhere on my maps in which all the levers from a floor or topic go and i remember my first waterfall control project fondly for that.  ---- beware, don't completely block the river as you may kill it ( .. at least in an earlier version))

cheers!
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2012, 12:49:39 pm »

Red sea method in 6 easy steps:
1) Build a two tile wide floor across the river.
2) Build walls along the riverbank from the floor towards the upstream side (for safety and to contain the mudflows)
3) Build a set of pumps across the entire length of the bridge
4) Power On!

5) Dig a ramp to the riverbed and install floodgates under the pumps.
6) Connect floodgates to a lever, and deconstruct everything else as desired.
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kenzosan

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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2012, 01:02:07 pm »

Alright, Reclaiming the old fort. I did a false reclaim in order to get the cave ins to complete. Any tips on reclaiming a fort?
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2012, 01:11:54 pm »

Depends on how far away it is - if you have a volcano, you should be fine as long as you take care where you dig. If you have to bring it up from the magma sea, though, you will kill your framerate.

Not if you use the FPS friendly pump design.
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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2012, 01:17:30 pm »

You need a bigger drain to stop the river flow. 6-8 tiles wide is best in my opinion. Well ahead of the intended dam site.
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kenzosan

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Re: Conquering the raging river
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2012, 01:17:51 pm »

damn reclaim cleanup's a bitch.
gonna be a while until I can start up river filtration again.
At least I don't have to start from complete scratch.

EDIT: Oh and there's a hippo roaming the halls. It's going to take even longer to clean up.
EDIT2: Now he's managed to get into my stockpile.
EDIT3: Why won't any of my dwarves actually USE the recovered bins and barrels?
EDIT4: Finally! Migrants! I haven't been this happy to see them since... Well, I've never been happy to see them, but this is an exception!
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 02:16:22 pm by kenzosan »
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