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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2012, 03:38:41 pm »

More or less. CoH was always about the perfect feeling and immersion.

I think anyone who ever wanted to play Relic RTSes for competitive-ness was out of their minds. :P Balance? What balance?

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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2012, 03:43:37 pm »

It's just a different kind of beast than your standard RTS. There's not a lot of randomness in stuff like SC and its ilk, it's all about numbers and maneuvering. In CoH, guys actually have to-hit rolls, the map is dynamic and there's a counter for every counter. I don't play Warcraft anymore to line my guys up at a wall and watch them mow down an incoming wave of enemies....it's just not fun nor does it really immerse me, because it'll play out the exact same way every time. I'll do that all day LONG in CoH, just to see how differently the battlefield ended up compared to my last game.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2012, 03:57:09 pm »

I don't want to steal your thunder, Nenjin, but I stumbled upon this teaser trailer. Doesn't show any footage, but I have been playing COH1 and more COH is always good.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2012, 06:27:31 pm »

Feel free to steal mah thunder, information is information.

I didn't post the trailer because it had zero content. Pretty cool, but wasn't really sharing anything new.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2012, 11:48:22 am »

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/company-of-heroes-2/1225519p1.html




Bumpity bump. News on how the weather systems in CoH 2 will work. The winter, historically, was probably deadliest foe either side faced during the war. So in CoH 2 they're envisioning it as almost a 3rd party on the battlefield, dubbed "General Winter."

It'll go like this. Troops which are not defending from the inside of a building, inside a troop carrier or next to camp fires suffer exposure. They'll have a little temp gauge above the squad and if it reaches zero, they're a squad of popsicles.



Water on the battlefield will freeze, allowing troops and vehicles to cross over. But frozen water can also be targeted and destroyed, so a tank sitting on a frozen river bed can be sunk by shooting the ice out from underneath it.

The intensity of the cold effects will vary as blizzards move on and off the battlefield at random. When a blizzard is on, visibility is reduced, water re-freezes faster and troops die to exposure much quicker. Without buildings to shelter your troops, you have to rely on engineers to make campfires to keep your troops warm. These can also be targeted and destroyed. The weather will also impact off-field abilities, like being unable to fly a reconnaissance plane or do a strafing run when a blizzard is in effect. 



To me this will take CoH's already awesome terrain-based strategems to a new level, while at the same time doubling down on the immersive qualities that made the game so replayable, even while just doing comp stomps. The challenge of holding a front line against the enemy just got a lot more interesting.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2012, 02:04:35 pm »

Getting this, but for now, we gotta live with the mod.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2012, 06:32:46 pm »

The game mechanics sound so amazingly dynamic... Any mention of map size?
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2012, 06:47:48 pm »

No real mention. But I'd hope they understand that in order to have interesting tactical options you need flanking options....and those require decent sized maps.

I still have some lingering doubts. Their hearts and goals are clearly in the right place....I just hope the tech is. The game certainly looks like CoH. But they talked a lot about terrain destruction and such with DoW 2, and how the Essence Engine 2.0 was supposed to be great. Didn't turn out that way. It was more polished than the Essence Engine 1.5, but not nearly as fun and it didn't produce the epic you saw in CoH.

So I love all of what I'm hearing, and praying that they did whatever they needed to, to get back to feel of the CoH engine and maps. I read in one of those interviews by someone who'd played CoH that the camera is zoomed in pretty tight. It looks pretty zoomed out in the one pic that's not taken thematically but...well, we'll have to see.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2012, 06:49:13 pm »

Temperature mechanics in an RTS? Heresy!


Getting this so hard.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2012, 04:31:36 pm »

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/company-of-heroes-2/1226154p1.html

Looks like Relic is going to same route for CoH 2 pre-orders that XCom: Enemy Unknown has.

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For those that prepurchase Company of Heroes 2 on Steam, their purchase will go towards a meter that, upon reaching certain tiers, unlocks a bunch of stuff. At the first tier, a TF2 hat and badge. Up next, a free copy of the excellent Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II: Retribution. Finally, if a whole bunch of folks prepurchase Company of Heroes 2, everyone gets the Commissar Chest, which includes free in-game currency, an XP boost, a unit boost (whatever that means), and the Commander Archetype. Sounds rather generous to me.

Generally not a BFD, although the phrase "in-game currency" has me a little worried. Hopefully whatever that is, is self-contained within the game, and not some crap-tacular form of micro-transactions.

Still, I've not bought DoW II: Retribution yet and I wouldn't mind getting it for free.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2012, 09:53:46 pm »

Reasons why CoH is better than MoW :
1) More than 6 people on multiplayer at any given time

Reasons why MoW is better:
1) Vehicle hilarity - riding tractor into battle
2) Take control of your heroes

That being said, have over 100 hrs in each game. They are different games, both entertaining, but I will not be buying the sequel to either.
Especially not CoH 2. You know how bad all the rain maps were on processors - people dropping out of games on a regular basis, having to take your perf levels down just to accommodate rain... Now half the game is based on weather? F that. No thanks.

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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2012, 02:39:24 am »

I'm more concerned about that 49,99€ price tag O_o

Reasons why CoH is better than MoW :
1) More than 6 people on multiplayer at any given time

Oh yeah, there's multiplayer in MoW as well :D

I have yet to try it. Might be fun even.
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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2012, 06:08:57 am »

I have never tried CoH. This sounds awesome, I can never get enough of terrain destruction RTS.
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Re: Company of Heroes 2 - The Eastern Front
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2012, 12:29:17 am »

Actually on second thought let's not go to the Eastern Front, 'Tis a silly place.
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