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JetCrash

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Limestone Question
« on: May 01, 2012, 04:59:41 pm »

Hey so I just started playing recently, and neither Google nor the guides I've been using could help me out with a question that I have, so I was hoping you guys might be able to. I was wondering what the difference is between using Limestone to make walls and using Limestone Blocks to make walls. They have a name difference ("Rough Limestone Block Wall" vs. "Limestone Block Wall"), but I was wondering what else is different about these, thanks!

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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 05:25:36 pm »

The difference is purely aesthetic, as far as I know. (Been playing for several years)
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 05:43:08 pm »

Not much difference at all with walls.

Blocks are worth slightly more, weigh less, and are stackable in stockpiles. They also supposedly cut build time.

They are useful when you forbid certain types of stones, blocks made from that stone will still be usable (for things that blocks are usable for)

As far as the wall itself, probably no real difference.
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 05:50:11 pm »

I seem to recall walls built of blocks being engravable, unlike walls built from rough rock. Been a while since I checked that though, so I might be wrong.
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 06:35:34 pm »

Blocks are worth slightly more, weigh less, and are stackable in stockpiles.

Blocks are worth considerably more. Although there's not much difference really, if you're all about practicality.

I seem to recall walls built of blocks being engravable, unlike walls built from rough rock. Been a while since I checked that though, so I might be wrong.

All constructed walls can be carved into fortifications, but never engraved. Smooth or rough.
Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 06:37:08 pm »

I seem to recall walls built of blocks being engravable, unlike walls built from rough rock. Been a while since I checked that though, so I might be wrong.

You can engrave walls cut directly from the rock, so long as they are Smoothed first (D>S).
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 12:16:49 pm »

Block walls and floors are definatly engraveable afaik, no idea about rough block walls but I'd guess theyre not.
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 12:53:25 pm »

Constructed walls and floors, whether built from blocks or bricks or bars or boulders, are definitely NOT engraveable.
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 12:54:21 pm »

Constructed walls and floors, whether built from blocks or bricks or bars or boulders, are definitely NOT engraveable.
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 03:28:37 pm »

Thirded.

The only difference in block walls vs rock walls is that they are called "smooth" rather than "rough", and worth more.

The only way to "construct" a wall that you can engrave is magma casting. http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Obsidian
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 04:10:49 pm »

They look better. Who wants to live somewhere with rough walls?

No one, that's who.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 10:27:26 pm »

my OCD nature requires me to use blocks...namely for reasons stated above.
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 05:04:02 am »

Constructing walls with blocks takes less time on the construction and more time on the mason beforehand, it doubles value and it's easier.

Boulders will create 'rough' walls, are worth less and take more time for the construction workers.
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 06:17:28 am »

Oh yes I was wrong you can't engrave those. Strange why do I remember engraving blocks...
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Re: Limestone Question
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2012, 03:58:29 pm »

You can carve fortifications out of constructed walls, but it doesn't matter if they are block walls or stone walls.
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