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[exolyx]

I'm having a large problem, children. Just everywhere, so I have to ask, what's the easiest way to get rid of the FPS leeches? First to tackle the problem of regular children, how can I easiest remove them? If I could get them locked into a room I could starve them out, but the babies, how can I separate them from their mothers? I know from reading around that they wilt away like unwatered flowers, but how to do that for a lazy person? I'm too incompetent to set up a weak water flow. I have a minotaur if that can be used for additional fun.

[Wannazzaki]

I do three things, usually two at any one fort. 1: Drop them from high up into the dining room to harden everyone, the one or two survivors train my medidorfs. 2: Danger room for kids, the most lethal kind. with real weapons. 3. I let my military breed as rampantly as it likes. The more the better. It makes snatchers decloak in the middle of the barracks (usually near the entrance), it makes babies impromptu bludgeons or shields in a pinch and best of all, the cloud of parasitic children distract gobbos for long enough that while trying to kill children the military catches up and murders the gobbos.

This slaughter needs balancing with masterwork meals and fancy rooms, but the happiness dent from the wanton murder of babies doesn't dent the place much. When in doubt wall a vampire noble somewhere as contingency!

[Sphalerite]

Wait 12 years. They won't be children anymore.

[SharkForce]

babies can be separated from their mothers by forcing them to swim.

the best way to remove children is to atom-smash them, as i understand it. or dump them in magma. the key is to ensure that the body is never found, which will just leave them as permanently "missing" and prevents them from being considered dead by their friends and family, thus preventing tantrum spirals (iirc, children will mostly respect burrows, so if you make a burrow for them and designate a meeting hall there, you should be able to atom-smash them or drop them from a retracting bridge to a horrible firey death no problem. note that if you throw them into a volcano, they will also likely explore the magma sea for you a little bit. before they get to that horrible firey death part of things, of course.

[i2amroy]

[BABY_CHILD_CAP:0:0] in d_init should stop all future children from being born in your fortress. Then just atom smash any that migrate in.

[Kestrel]

There were some pretty good suggestions in response to the same question I asked not long ago, if that helps.

Recently, I played a world with 50 years of history, and my migrant waves were full of children.  They made up 25% of my fortress population.  So, I started shuffling them off to a special magma chamber.  I tried to space out their deaths to avoid tantrums, but wasn't entirely successful on that account.

[kaenneth]

All children love The Circus; and Clowns.

[rtg593]

Heh. I tried dumping a buncha kids in a volcano. I think one dodged when the bridge retracted, because I got several "found dead" messages.

Off-topic, I also just got a found dead message from a dog that dodged into the volcano...Message re-centered me to the SMR...

As far as hardening dwarves, killing their kids is kind of a sucky way to do it;-) I just got a migrant with no compassion, "Not affected by the suffering of others." Wish I could mod that into all my migrants:p

Most on-topic part: Change your child-cap settings. Default 100/1000 allows up to 100 kids at a time, regardless of your pop cap. Mine's 10/25. Still goes over occasionally, child migrant or multiple pregnancies just shy of the cap, but it usually stays pretty close, no more than 17 or 18. (popcap 40 to keep total pop under 100)

[Urist Da Vinci]

If you atom-smash the kids one at a time somewhere where no-one can see them, and then slab them after the "missing for a week" message but before a ghost appears, they will stay missing forever and no bad thoughts will happen. The parents won't notice.

[Magmodeus]

You take the classic way, magma. Magma solves everything, including magma. You can also make them become cavern explorers and noble trap testers.

[i2amroy]

As far as hardening dwarves, killing their kids is kind of a sucky way to do it;-) I just got a migrant with no compassion, "Not affected by the suffering of others." Wish I could mod that into all my migrants:p

Actually that's fairly easy to do. Just add [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0] to the end of the dwarven entry and all of your future dwarves (whether migrants or born) will have that.

[rtg593]

As far as hardening dwarves, killing their kids is kind of a sucky way to do it;-) I just got a migrant with no compassion, "Not affected by the suffering of others." Wish I could mod that into all my migrants:p

Actually that's fairly easy to do. Just add [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0] to the end of the dwarven entry and all of your future dwarves (whether migrants or born) will have that.

*disturbing laughter*

[Minority]

Mod the raws so your dwarfs will eat sentients, then kill/ butcher them and make master work meals, thus providing food, and the meals will counter the bad thoughts of loosing the child

[Naryar]

As far as hardening dwarves, killing their kids is kind of a sucky way to do it;-) I just got a migrant with no compassion, "Not affected by the suffering of others." Wish I could mod that into all my migrants:p

Actually that's fairly easy to do. Just add [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0] to the end of the dwarven entry and all of your future dwarves (whether migrants or born) will have that.

So... how will they be different from goblins and the HFS then ? We need a clear moral scale !

[SharkForce]

Heh. I tried dumping a buncha kids in a volcano. I think one dodged when the bridge retracted, because I got several "found dead" messages.

did you dump them all at once, perchance? they may have "found" one another dead on the way down... or if they didn't burn away at the bottom before sending in the next one (that would be the drawback to the part where throwing a person into a volcano scouts the magma sea...)