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MrButtchicker

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Most valuable mechanism ever?
« on: April 29, 2012, 04:00:48 pm »

I was playing, then my legendary mechanic was possessed. I immediately assigned him to my adamantine burrow, and he now has over fifteen adamantine ores in his workshop. I am trying to take advantage of this by mining more adamantine, whatever the cost may be. (clowns are expected.)
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Re: Most valuable mechanism ever?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 04:02:45 pm »

You've probably triggered the Planepacked bug, where he won't stop gathering materials until you remove the burrow assignment.  You can probably get him to use every piece of adamantine ore on the map if you want.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 04:12:30 pm »

Oh, yeah clowns. It always has to clowns doesn't it?
« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 04:15:57 pm by MrButtchicker »
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 04:18:37 pm »

I advise AGAINST going off and gathering additional adamantine.  Unless you already have a mine dug straight to it and just haven't bothered mining as much as you can.

Because even if you have the planepacked bug, if the adamantine has not been mined already and sitting in a stockpile, then while you spend time mining it, your possessed dwarf is ticking away toward going insane.

They won't go insane no matter how long they spend picking up items from your stockpile, but waiting for materials to be gathered in the first place IS going to contribute to insanity.  And adamantine takes so long to get ready to mine more of, that you'll probably lose the whole artifact if you get greedy.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 04:20:31 pm »

Oh. Well I guess I'm already done mining though. Had to wall off the clowns, and my adamantine mine is temporarily out of business.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 04:25:30 pm »

airlock the adamantine/clowns off, you can continue collecting ore as long as there isn't a path up to your fort
that is if the clowns aren't inside the mining area

should've smoothed and fortified the stone as you dug to prevent the initial clown wave
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Re: Most valuable mechanism ever?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 04:31:37 pm »

I advise AGAINST going off and gathering additional adamantine.  Unless you already have a mine dug straight to it and just haven't bothered mining as much as you can.

Because even if you have the planepacked bug, if the adamantine has not been mined already and sitting in a stockpile, then while you spend time mining it, your possessed dwarf is ticking away toward going insane.

They won't go insane no matter how long they spend picking up items from your stockpile, but waiting for materials to be gathered in the first place IS going to contribute to insanity.  And adamantine takes so long to get ready to mine more of, that you'll probably lose the whole artifact if you get greedy.

If there's no more adamantine available, the Dwarf'll just begin looking for the next material/begin construction. It's already got the necessary materials, the planepack bug just causes it to look for more.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 05:50:02 pm »

I advise AGAINST going off and gathering additional adamantine.  Unless you already have a mine dug straight to it and just haven't bothered mining as much as you can.

Because even if you have the planepacked bug, if the adamantine has not been mined already and sitting in a stockpile, then while you spend time mining it, your possessed dwarf is ticking away toward going insane.

They won't go insane no matter how long they spend picking up items from your stockpile, but waiting for materials to be gathered in the first place IS going to contribute to insanity.  And adamantine takes so long to get ready to mine more of, that you'll probably lose the whole artifact if you get greedy.

If there's no more adamantine available, the Dwarf'll just begin looking for the next material/begin construction. It's already got the necessary materials, the planepack bug just causes it to look for more.
Okay, possible, but has this actually been tested?  Without any evidence, it seems like a coin flip to me if theyd just stop and wait for more adamantine or move on to the next ingredient and gather all of that too.

This may be finally the excuse I've been looking for to go make an intentionally ridiculous mega artifact...
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Re: Most valuable mechanism ever?
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 06:35:37 pm »

Yup, it's been tested

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 07:32:46 pm »

Ya, check the building with q. If all he's crying for is stone or whatever addy is classified as, then releasing the burrow with make him start working. Otherwise releasing it will probably free him to grab whatever he's missing.
Do post a screen showing its value, won't you? ;) 
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 08:17:31 pm »

Ya, check the building with q. If all he's crying for is stone or whatever addy is classified as, then releasing the burrow with make him start working. Otherwise releasing it will probably free him to grab whatever he's missing.
Do post a screen showing its value, won't you? ;)
Well assuming the adamantine is added as decorations,
300 mat value * 10 base value * 120 artifact quality = 360,000 per decoration * 15 = 5.4 million so far.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 08:40:21 pm »

Ya, check the building with q. If all he's crying for is stone or whatever addy is classified as, then releasing the burrow with make him start working. Otherwise releasing it will probably free him to grab whatever he's missing.
Do post a screen showing its value, won't you? ;)
Well assuming the adamantine is added as decorations,
300 mat value * 10 base value * 120 artifact quality = 360,000 per decoration * 15 = 5.4 million so far.

Raw adamantine is worth 250 rather than the 300 wafers are worth. So it's 4.5 million for the decorations and another 900K for the artifact mechanism itself.
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 09:27:39 pm »

Ya, check the building with q. If all he's crying for is stone or whatever addy is classified as, then releasing the burrow with make him start working. Otherwise releasing it will probably free him to grab whatever he's missing.
Do post a screen showing its value, won't you? ;)
Well assuming the adamantine is added as decorations,
300 mat value * 10 base value * 120 artifact quality = 360,000 per decoration * 15 = 5.4 million so far.

Raw adamantine is worth 250 rather than the 300 wafers are worth. So it's 4.5 million for the decorations and another 900K for the artifact mechanism itself.

And if addy is the building material? Remember, p-bug. It may have only wanted one stone to make it out of, but with the bug, he keeps going. If he uses all 15 as a building material instead of decorations, how we looking?

Edit: your math-fu is greater than... Well, my phones browsers ability to find stuff on the wiki :p
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2012, 09:33:19 pm »

You guys ALMOST guessed it. It ended up at 5.6 million.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 10:05:21 pm »

And if addy is the building material? Remember, p-bug. It may have only wanted one stone to make it out of, but with the bug, he keeps going. If he uses all 15 as a building material instead of decorations, how we looking?

Mechanisms have a base value of thirty so it's 250 x 30 x 120 or 900K for the base value of an adamantine artifact mechanism. The minimum total value for said artifact would be 1.2M simply because there would be one free decoration. This is because decorations are worth a third as much as a mechanism using the same material.

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You guys ALMOST guessed it. It ended up at 5.6 million.

Did it have any more decorations besides the adamantine?
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