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Author Topic: Baroness selection: which calculated risk is less likely to bite me in the ass?  (Read 3116 times)

Lielac

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So. Seeing as I have 107 dwarves and have exported tons of crap to the Mountainhome, it's high time I got promoted to a barony. Through a process of elimination where dwarves only get to be chosen as a potential baron(ess) if they only like things I have in copious supply or can make just as easily (for instance, a dog leather loving dwarf), I've narrowed my selection down to one of two dwarves:

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Dwarf A: Her likes are almost all available (gold, gold, gold, gold, and more gold), save levin opals. She would get kicked off the list for that, except I don't know if mandates involving specific gems even happen.

Dwarf B: Her material likes are definitely all available. However, I read on the wiki that large gems are only made sometimes, which is bad if she demands some and the jewelers can't crank them out in time. Is the unpredictability of large gems worse than the possibility of Dwarf A mandating something involving levin opal?
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Lielac likes adamantine, magnetite, marble, the color olive green, battle axes, cats for their aloofness, dragons for their terrible majesty, women for their beauty, and the Oxford comma for its disambiguating properties. When possible, she prefers to consume pear cider and nectarines. She absolutely detests kobolds.

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Yup. I'd go for Dorf B.

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well, as unpredictable as large gems might be, you could still try for panicky gem digging in emergencies, however if the baron demands something you just cant get, uh.. crap...

thus i think choice b might be safer
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Garath

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if you play the current version, you won't get material mandates anymore, only item mandates. The only thing you might get is a demand for a certain piece of furniture, which can get annoying if they like strange stone types or bone. A warthog hoof bed is NOT an option, baroness!

If the gold loving one also likes cabinets, you might get to make a lot of cabinets and a demand of a gold one for in the bedroom.
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I managed to skip being a barony.
I'm now the mountain home with a mayor.

Sitting on a mass of gold, gems and magma was useful for suddenly offering tons of good crafts!  :P
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Lielac

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I thought Dwarf B would be the safer bet. Thanks for the confirmation, I've recommended Sakzul for baroness.
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Lielac likes adamantine, magnetite, marble, the color olive green, battle axes, cats for their aloofness, dragons for their terrible majesty, women for their beauty, and the Oxford comma for its disambiguating properties. When possible, she prefers to consume pear cider and nectarines. She absolutely detests kobolds.

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Tell us how it ends, willya? :P

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likes as they relate to mandates are far less important than personality traits.
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Lielac

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Welll, Sakzul's first mandate was for 1 large gem. Of course. ::) I've got the jewelers cranking out cut diorite in the hopes of getting a large gem from that and appeasing her. Or at least getting them up to legendary if it turns out you can only get large gems off of cutting actual gems.
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Lielac likes adamantine, magnetite, marble, the color olive green, battle axes, cats for their aloofness, dragons for their terrible majesty, women for their beauty, and the Oxford comma for its disambiguating properties. When possible, she prefers to consume pear cider and nectarines. She absolutely detests kobolds.

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Urdim was the better choice. She'd only mandate gauntlets and you really can't have too much of those. Spears are fine too, you can jam them in a weapon trap should you run out of unarmed speardwarves.
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Saiko Kila

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I'd also choose the dwarf with only possible requirement, i.e. the gauntlet one. He would stick to ordering gauntlets and prohibiting their export, which is not only manageable, it comes naturally. The second dwarf can order two types of things, where one type is kind of hard to make purposely. Also, indeed, none of my mayors orders the specific materials in this version of DF. For example my mayor likes crossbows and nether-cap wood but he never orders nether cap crossbows, only just crossbows.
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the image didn't work for me first try. I'd have gone with dwarf A

though B isnt that bad
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If you look around, you may have dwarves who don't like anything that can be mandated.  I have had two fortresses with no mandates from baron or baroness.  These dwarves also seem to be immune to accidents for some reason  ;D.
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Saiko Kila

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So. Seeing as I have 107 dwarves and have exported tons of crap to the Mountainhome, it's high time I got promoted to a barony.

Wait, one question just came to my mind. Why would you want to be a barony at all? Do you want to have trade agreements? Because if your goal is to become the Mountainhome, then definitely you don't need to be barony before that. You need only to have enough dwarves, enough wealth and to give enough offerings.
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Dwarf A is the safer option. Large gems you might not be able to make, but material-specific mandates are no longer in. Dwarf B will just screw you over.
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Edit: OH GOD, THE LEATHERS ARE MULTIPLYING WHENEVER I SLEEP.
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