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[uggi]

10 peasents? Surely you mean 7.

Yes, 7, sorry about that.

[WillowLuman]

Not even a pick to with which to strike the earth? I know we left some gear, but I didn't see any picks there.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Actually there are picks,.,, but NOTHIN ELSE
No booze, no food, no seeds...

Now I am for challenge, but MANG give us a break!

[WillowLuman]

Dwarves might tantrum before you can get farms set up if you start without drinks / food.

[flabort]

All the more reason to build a brewery fast as possible, gather lots of plants, then hit the caverns quick-quick-quick.
It's caverns, or having thriving above ground farms before below ground.

[uggi]

There's at least three picks, one battle axe, loads of berries and meat laying on the ground and in the backpacks. Although there's a bug that prevents you from using the seeds from berries that were brought to the place before embarking. But dwarves can still eat the berries. There's a horse to slaughter and another one to milk. Not much wildlife, and nothing of it is hostile. The only "challenge" is to construct a still and a few barrels and gather some plants to get something to drink.

[WillowLuman]

Well, when you put it like that. Still, just keep track of said contents of backpacks, some people might need to be reunited with their gear.

Probably shouldn't breach the caverns before the heroes arrive.

[Joemit]

I just tried starting at the dawn of time. The fortress lasted about 3 years and fell apart in a tantrum spiral. Very spectacular.

[uggi]

Probably shouldn't breach the caverns before the heroes arrive.

Well, you'll need water from the caverns to clean the the infected parts of the heroes. All the murky pools on the surface have dried up.

[WillowLuman]

Isn't there an aquifer? But again, wouldn't need breaching until the heroes show up.

Just took a peek at the save. Holy crap, Noface's pack still has intact skull, egg, and blood (in waterskin) from that dragon. And there's also Kazis's skull (that roc, wasn't it?). Just keep in mind if you want to preserve any of those as trophies. Uggi's pick is there, so 1 peasant can mine.

Going to try the alternate hack embark tomorrow, just to see if it can be done. Probably safer to use non-hack methods for the actual fort though.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Wasn't there a stream around Silverysects?
I know you embarked on a 4x4, which is pretty small, My computer is usually able to handle a 6x6 at least.

Having a flowing river in our desert would be rEALLY helpful.
Especially as I had planned on turning the place into a flooded watered paradise.

I mean, Being Dwarf, whatever area we settle, we nuke it.
If we embark on an Iceflow, we want to turn it into a hot tropical paradise.
If we embark in a parched desert, we want to turn it into a lake filled swamp or something.

That said, you are correct about the seeds and stuff, there ARE some materials.  But having a starting booze supply would still be nice... I mean, Our Dwaven heros would carry SOME supplies with them

[parlor_tricks]

I just tried it myself. Within the first year I lost Nish to a were jackal. Sorry.

Uggi slept through the whole thing.

But yeah, you have to go nuts with brewing and cooking if you want to survive. Also the caverns had no moss in them.

[melkor]

so are we going to create a succession fortress?

[Crossroads Inc.]

so are we going to create a succession fortress?

But of course

I really REALLY need to update the front page and put something a bit more organized together.
I am testing the fort "as is" right now, I'd REALLY Like a resized one with a river in it, just because that will give us an infinte water supply that we WON'T Have to pump up from the caves...

As far as succesion, it will be (baring changes) In order of the people who made it to Silverysects first.  I need to hold a sign up for other people wanting a turn. I am right now going with the standard One Year = One Turn method.

In terms of what the "Goal" of the fort is going to be... Well the orginal idea WAAAY Back at the start was it was goign to be the "First" REAL Mountain home, hence the whole "dawn of time" bit.  So we were going to plan out something EPic for both above and below.
For above, IDeas floated thus far included:
Huge monuments to the Dwarven (and human heros) who fell on the way to Silverysects.
Turning the desert as wet as possible (IE huge lakes everywhere, Waterfalls and such)
Building an Epic "underworld" (huge open caverns, Moria like halls and such)
And of course making it a real "Mountainhome" by getting a king.

[Urist McLaptop]

I say you should flood the land then pull a boat murdered. -if that's possible.imagine.....a beautiful obsidian landscape devoid of all life .....makes my dwarf heart wanna cry ...