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[Talvara]

We'll try to lure them out and ambush them.

if they dont come at us right away, we light some fires and smoke them out. with our troups in a pincer ambush formation.

[NRDL]

If we do use a pincer movement, with just what, 5 knights, how's that gonna work?

Is a pincer movement with infantry ( especially the less agile spearmen ) feasible?

I'm still going with my plan, but I just love debating about how to go about a battle. 

[Talvara]

perhaps Pincer movement wasn't the correct term, what I meant was setting up our force on either side of the cave entrance so we flank them when they come out of the cavern.

Hopefully they'll be disorganised from the smoke and threat of suffocation.

[NRDL]

This is actually kinda difficult to plan without knowing the EXACT layout of the cave and its surroundings.  If the bandits were to go out, would they be able to go out in only one direction?  Or multiple?  If multiple, it would be harder to position our men in such a way that they are trapped.

[Mr. Palau]

Yeah can we get a drawing or extensive description of the cave and it's suroundings please?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Pfffffffff....  Guys, it's an economic strategy not a tactical warfare game.

Just go and have a battle with bandits

[Mr. Palau]

Pfffffffff....  Guys, it's an economic strategy not a tactical warfare game.

Just go and have a battle with bandits

Do this and, leave it up to the trainer to decide how to fight the battle. He is a vet and must know a thing or two about battle, wheereas we have only won one.

[LordBucket]

Just go and have a battle with bandits

+1

[LordBucket]

Why is he unhappy? Ask him.

Because you took Khalor as your infantry trainer, despite that his (very) bad relations with the church.

I think I speak for everyone when I say that I have a very difficult time feeling very heartbroken over that.

I say we spread rumors that he's molesting children, or a witch or something. Then write a letter to the home church explaining that our faith is very important to us and that our current priest may secretly be a godless, pagan devil worshipper. Demand that they send three candidates for us to us interview to replace him.

Then choose the young, idealistic one who genuinely believes what he's preaching and hasn't yet succumbed to the power mongering of the church.

[Mr. Palau]

that could backfire so hard though...

[LordBucket]

that could backfire so hard though...

Ok. What do you propose we do instead?

[Maldevious]

I like Lord Bucket's suggestions. Seems as if this guy is unreasonable and dangerous. We tried attending his services, but that wasn't enough. Go above his head (we ARE his liege lord) and get him out of here.

[Mr. Palau]

I like Lord Bucket's suggestions. Seems as if this guy is unreasonable and dangerous. We tried attending his services, but that wasn't enough. Go above his head (we ARE his liege lord) and get him out of here.

What if his superiors are his friends? Why would the church have any reason to take this guy away execpt our unbased assertion that he is a godless, pagan devil-worshiper? Furthermore if the accuser is known to have a bad reputation with the church why would they listen? This town gives as much money to the church as it does to the Baron, clearly they must be very powerful. Do you think they would seriously consider removing a priest who up to this point has been very loyal to the church?

Besides that would not solve any of our problems with the church, the priest likely speaks for the entire church when he says that attending a few services would not be enough to mend our relations. Our problems orriginate with the trainer we hired, and that offended the church at large, not just the priest. If this man has as bad relations as it sounds with the church, he must be some class of heretic or unbeliever.  Hiring him would therefore blight our relation with any man of religious standing.

that could backfire so hard though...

Ok. What do you propose we do instead?

I propsoe we do nothing on the matter for now. The church will not interfere signifcantly in our affaris until our fief is bigger, and once our fief grows we should make friends with the church. After all we will likely be embarking in a struggle against the political establishment, we would not want to be become embroiled in one with the religious establisment aswell. Once we are the political establishmnet, then we can begin to diminish the power of the church.

[stabbymcstabstab]

We could attempt to act like we are trying to convert our trainer to the churches way. It will kinda help our standing and if we inform our trainer about it he can act like he's kinda starting to convert making it more convincable.

[LordBucket]

What if his superiors are his friends?

Do you think they would seriously consider removing a
priest who up to this point has been very loyal to the church?

If he were of any particular value or importance to them do you think they would have assigned him to a totally unimportant backwater village like ours?

Most likely, the church assigns priests to villages for years at a time as part of a standard training regiment. Our priest was assigned here either because he's not highly regarded, and was therefore assigned a bad post, or more likely he's simply new and has no connections, and was therefore assigned post of no particular value.