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Voting closed: April 07, 2013, 10:34:35 am

[Zako]

((I have no idea if you are serious or not...))

[Tiruin]

"If you have more tokens you want to spend, you can always buy another battery for the Saber. The Gungnir lets you pack two extras into the casing here, because that's the only ammo limit it has, and I thought it could use extending."

". . .So about this new weapon you devised. How will it work, exactly? Any safety measures put in place?"

[PyroDesu]

((Also, to anyone who liked PW's X-COM: Enemy Unknown HMRC Antics, the DLC Enemy Within adds gene-modding your soldiers, and cyborg/mech (they are cyborgs who pilot mechs) soldiers. Which you get access to by collecting items that will only appear once every time a map containing them is played (therefore, there is a hard-set limit on them in each playthrough), and EXPLODE if you don't find the second of the pair or finish the mission before a timer runs out.

Yeah.))

((Wait is this something for the actual game?))

((I have no idea if you are serious or not...))

(("Producer 2K revealed details about XCOM: Enemy Within, the upcoming expansion to XCOM: Enemy Unknown. The main features are the addition of the Meld, a substance that allows you to create a new class (Mech Troopers), with new weapons and abilities or to genetically enhance your soldiers (Gene Mods), along with other features. The release date is November 12th and check the full details on the XCOM: Enemy Within page."

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

))

[Sean Mirrsen]

"If you have more tokens you want to spend, you can always buy another battery for the Saber. The Gungnir lets you pack two extras into the casing here, because that's the only ammo limit it has, and I thought it could use extending."

". . .So about this new weapon you devised. How will it work, exactly? Any safety measures put in place?"

"The Gungnir? Well, it's an electrolaser. It kind of depends on the presence of an atmosphere - some kind of gas between the gun and the target. The laser, burning a path for itself through the gas, it creates a tunnel of sorts, filled with ionized gas - a plasma conduit, if you will. The Tesla Saber here is a powerful electricity source, using some of that modern space magic to prevent it from arcing to things you don't want it to. When you combine the two, you essentially get a free-floating, superconductive wire, connecting your Saber to your target. Much like you can shock everyone in the room by stabbing the Saber into a metal floor, this plasma-conduit left by the laser allows you to shock anything the laser hits. If it's a living target, then even if the laser didn't kill them enough, the electricity will. Robots might not fare much better either.

Safety measures are... not much. It's no more dangerous than any powerful weapon, the only precautions are the same as for both of the two components. Don't aim at teammates, try not to aim at a metal surface you might be in contact with. The Saber is perfectly positioned to work like a bayonet, and with the nature of the Saber the extra distance from your arms is only a plus. The parts I'm adding allow you to trigger the Saber and the Laser both, or separately, without groping all over the weapon.

About the only thing I'd like to caution against is sweeping. You know, how most people tend to attack with a laser the first time they hold one - jam the trigger and swipe the beam left to right across everyone in front of them. The electrolaser won't work like that. You'll be creating a cloud of ionized gas instead of a single tunnel, and electricity will start arcing out of the containment field of the Saber, without a guarantee that it'll strike the target you aim for instead of something else. Slow, controlled sweeps, letting the gas naturally dissipate without distorting the plasma channel. Otherwise it might go haywire. Being hit by artificial lightning is not something anyone wants to accidentally experience."

[Corsair]

((Just one token remaining now))
"Cool, So how effective is this? also is there a way of connecting a gauss generator/capacitor bank to a manipulator to provide power?"
Ask, then message the doctor

I heard you perform modifications on us soldiers with relatively good success rates I was wondering if you desired another test subject?

[Spinal_Taper]

"Ready to kick some ass Thomas?"

Thomas nods.
"Ready as I'll ever be. Hope this goes well though."
Suddenly, he looks up.
"Steve, are there any places in the staging area I could use as a sniper nest?"
Be ready

[Lenglon]

wait for mission

[Tiruin]

"Being hit by artificial lightning is not something anyone wants to accidentally experience."

"Ahaha-haha..yeah. Erm, not good.

"So how about insulating the MKIII? Do you know any substances that would both resist the electrical discharge and the heat simulated if in case the weapon goes...'awry'?"

[Sean Mirrsen]

"Being hit by artificial lightning is not something anyone wants to accidentally experience."

"Ahaha-haha..yeah. Erm, not good.

"So how about insulating the MKIII? Do you know any substances that would both resist the electrical discharge and the heat simulated if in case the weapon goes...'awry'?"

"...Rubber? Spidersilk? Anything dense and non-conductive will do. For just electricity, you could do with a faraday cage of sorts, a flexible wire mesh underlay with a layer of insulating material underneath. Not perfect, but anything that makes electricity want to take a path that's not through your body should work.

Should probably point out that it won't save against friendly fire. Yet another perk of the electrolaser is that the laser punches through any outer insulation too."

[Tack]

((Are defenders doing their thing on the ship thread, or mission thread?))

[Unholy_Pariah]

((Id say on ship))

[GreatWyrmGold]

((Hey guys, if I ever happen to get suddenly banned from the forums, the most likely thing is that I was using a racial slur common in the hip-hop world that has been deemed "derogatory" on here.))

But TCM, how can they get mad at you? You're black! Just like I'm a hot asian woman.

wat

((I know, how can a robot be a hot Asian woman? Although, if a robot resembling an attractive woman was designed, I suppose it would be done first by someone in Asia. Partly statistics, given how Asia has a plurality if not a majority of the world's population, and partly because, well...Japan.))

Get Lyra's attention. Or Lenglon's.

"Um...Lyra...you remember when you were crying on the one robot person...was the person Miss Feyri?"

[Knight Otu]

"Gorat, you have just been promoted to Second in commad for now unless Feyri doesn't want to be second in command."

Gorat narrows his eyes and thinks for a bit. "Well, at least you can control me if this goes horribly wrong.."

"I have no problem with him as a second-in-command. Gorat, wasn't it? Ok. As long as you don't act like a complete idiot, we'll get along just fine."

"It's what I try to do."

Spoiler: Gorat 'Chin' Ivanos (click to show/hide)

Str 3; Dex 3; End 3; Cha 5; Int 4; Wil 12//Spe 0; Int 1; Han 0 (-1); Con 1; Unc 0; Exo 8; Aux 1 (+1); Med 0
Mk II Suit; Microwave PK Amp; laser rifle: normal cigarettes; blue smokes; datapad (with platformer shooter); nanoghosts; shock trigger (with Jack for this mission)
Appearance: 5'11'', 170 pounds in a rather unmuscular frame, shoulder-long brown hair, short goatee, brown eyes, a rather long chin that earned him his nickname. Age 32
Half a robot foot. Robot right arm.

[Tiruin]

((Hey guys, if I ever happen to get suddenly banned from the forums, the most likely thing is that I was using a racial slur common in the hip-hop world that has been deemed "derogatory" on here.))

But TCM, how can they get mad at you? You're black! Just like I'm a hot asian woman.

wat

((I know, how can a robot be a hot Asian woman? Although, if a robot resembling an attractive woman was designed, I suppose it would be done first by someone in Asia. Partly statistics, given how Asia has a plurality if not a majority of the world's population, and partly because, well...Japan.))

((My forehead is red now. Thanks.
:I))

"...Rubber? Spidersilk? Anything dense and non-conductive will do. For just electricity, you could do with a faraday cage of sorts, a flexible wire mesh underlay with a layer of insulating material underneath. Not perfect, but anything that makes electricity want to take a path that's not through your body should work.

Should probably point out that it won't save against friendly fire. Yet another perk of the electrolaser is that the laser punches through any outer insulation too."

No I do not want to lose whatever part of me is-
. . .Oh right.
Well..I suppose being a brain in a robot body is..ok.
. . .
It's not ok.

"Can't you just reroute the environmental sources of energy (like solar power) to recharge the battery? I'm more of that kind of person--reuseable ammunition. Also, a diverting route so if in case of malfunction, it won't direct upon its owner? I'm thinking the casing around the ammunition storage."

[Sean Mirrsen]

"Can't you just reroute the environmental sources of energy (like solar power) to recharge the battery? I'm more of that kind of person--reuseable ammunition. Also, a diverting route so if in case of malfunction, it won't direct upon its owner? I'm thinking the casing around the ammunition storage."

"Well, the matter of recharging the batteries is a matter of getting rechargeable batteries - there's a whole generator here that could recharge them when you're not firing. Tesla Saber batteries being what they are, I am uncertain they can be rechargeable, though. It's hard to make this kind of weapon fully independent of consumable powersources - believe me, I tried. The laser's going to work as long as you need it to, the generator in the stock here will take care of that, but a generator to power the Saber would have to be even bigger and heavier - I want to make a rifle, not a siege weapon. Heh.

A malfunction would have to be pretty darn severe to make it shock the owner. A big part of the reason for using the Saber as-is, is that kind of safety - it's not going to malfunction any more than a Saber would. And the batteries, for all their power density, should theoretically be safe enough. I haven't been hitting it with any sledgehammers or axes, but I suspect that if a battery is breached, it's just going to short out and explode, at worst.

If you're worried about getting shocked by the weapon itself though, well, there isn't much to say about it. It's a gun that shoots lightning. Exercising some kind of care in handling is probably the best way to stay unharmed."

((edit: just to clarify, in case you haven't seen it, I've sketched the Gungnir-S down as looking roughly like this.))