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Author Topic: The Computer Technical Thread:Thermal Compounds (throw that oem heatsink away!)  (Read 22809 times)

Tellemurius

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Question:

I am not at all worried about my laptop overheating and have no reason to think it would.

However, since I have a fan blowing on me in my office, I was wondering if it would be helpful to have the breeze on my computer as well. If so, should I blow the breeze from the fan on the heat sink, or would that impede the device's functioning? If so, would having the breeze upon another part of the computer be better.

[This seemed in line with the thread's title=]
For all laptops they suck in air from the bottom and blow it out from the back or the side. Stating this its good to get some circulation underneath the laptop but not blowing directly into a heatsink to the fan. Granted the only way you can impede a computer fan is you stuck a vacuum or a leaf blower to it, they are tough little buggers.

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Question:

I am not at all worried about my laptop overheating and have no reason to think it would.

However, since I have a fan blowing on me in my office, I was wondering if it would be helpful to have the breeze on my computer as well. If so, should I blow the breeze from the fan on the heat sink, or would that impede the device's functioning? If so, would having the breeze upon another part of the computer be better.

[This seemed in line with the thread's title=]
For all laptops they suck in air from the bottom and blow it out from the back or the side. Stating this its good to get some circulation underneath the laptop but not blowing directly into a heatsink to the fan. Granted the only way you can impede a computer fan is you stuck a vacuum or a leaf blower to it, they are tough little buggers.

Thank you. I once had a laptop tray with built in fans that blew air onto the bottom of the laptop. Somehow, this laptop had the motherboard melt.

Then again, I used it to play DF.... DF kills pretty much everything, so there you go. :)

I do appreciate it though. Honestly, are those little laptop stands worth anything at all or is it just a waste of $20?
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Tellemurius

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Question:

I am not at all worried about my laptop overheating and have no reason to think it would.

However, since I have a fan blowing on me in my office, I was wondering if it would be helpful to have the breeze on my computer as well. If so, should I blow the breeze from the fan on the heat sink, or would that impede the device's functioning? If so, would having the breeze upon another part of the computer be better.

[This seemed in line with the thread's title=]
For all laptops they suck in air from the bottom and blow it out from the back or the side. Stating this its good to get some circulation underneath the laptop but not blowing directly into a heatsink to the fan. Granted the only way you can impede a computer fan is you stuck a vacuum or a leaf blower to it, they are tough little buggers.

Thank you. I once had a laptop tray with built in fans that blew air onto the bottom of the laptop. Somehow, this laptop had the motherboard melt.

Then again, I used it to play DF.... DF kills pretty much everything, so there you go. :)

I do appreciate it though. Honestly, are those little laptop stands worth anything at all or is it just a waste of $20?
Eh it depends on where the fan is pointed at and where are the vents on your laptop. If you got one of those laptop stands where you can move the fans around you are golden. Just stick those fans underneath the memory and any other vent.

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Sometimes those stands are worse than useless because they actually cover up the vent and blow air ineffectually against the bottom of the case.

Laptops are perfectly capable of keeping themselves cool if they are on a hard flat surface.
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Thankies.

Now I am curious though.

What if I had the desk fan blowing air from the computer's heat sink. In other words, would placing the back of the fan near the heat sink put less stress on the computer's cooling system by creating a draft of air that way?
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We could always rig you up a liquid cooled rig, Truean. That'd be pretty awesome. Or an oil submersed rig in an aquarium.
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Sometimes those stands are worse than useless because they actually cover up the vent and blow air ineffectually against the bottom of the case.

Laptops are perfectly capable of keeping themselves cool if they are on a hard flat surface.

You, sir, have not met my laptop.
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Sometimes those stands are worse than useless because they actually cover up the vent and blow air ineffectually against the bottom of the case.

Laptops are perfectly capable of keeping themselves cool if they are on a hard flat surface.

You, sir, have not met my laptop.
You, ser, probably need moar fans and/or heatsinks.
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Sometimes those stands are worse than useless because they actually cover up the vent and blow air ineffectually against the bottom of the case.

Laptops are perfectly capable of keeping themselves cool if they are on a hard flat surface.

You, sir, have not met my laptop.

... until they fill with dust. In which case a laptop stand thingy won't help, they need cleaning.
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since we are speaking of heat & fans, I need a knowledge check:
Dell manufacturing hates people who'd like to unscrew their pc and clean the fans, right? because it's already been the third or fourth time that I wanted to clean the fans from my laptop, but all I got when I proceeded to unscrew the lower bottom was the motherboard, the video cards, the memory cards, the ram, but not the damn fans, which seem to be in a little world of their own that I can't seem to reach without the use of a saw.
So, i bought some pressurized air to clean them, but the problem remains that I'd rather like to know HOW one should go unscrewing the *little world* the fans are in? (the laptop is an Inspiron 1724)
And now I actually now I've been cleaning the outer fans, (the ones which bring outside the hot air) and not the inner ones. (Now i'll have to use the air thingie again!)
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Laptops aren't designed to be user-serviced. Chances are it's almost impossible to remove dust from the inner fans. The intention is that you buy a new laptop.

EDIT: or pay them to repair/service it.
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I'm starting to think my next pc is not going to be a laptop. sheesh...I could however play games in Alaska or in the snow...
Thanks for answering the question.
*goes to get some buckets of ice*
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“Well,” he said. “We’re in the Forgotten hunting grounds I take it. Your screams just woke them up early. Congratulations, Lyara.”
“Do something!” she whispered, trying to keep her sight on all of them at once.
Basileus clapped his hands once. The Forgotten took a step forward, attracted by the sound.
“There, I did something. I clapped. I like clapping,” he said. -The Investigator And The Case Of The Missing Brain.

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Hey my friend had one of those, great time chucking it out the window.

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since we are speaking of heat & fans, I need a knowledge check:
Dell manufacturing hates people who'd like to unscrew their pc and clean the fans, right? because it's already been the third or fourth time that I wanted to clean the fans from my laptop, but all I got when I proceeded to unscrew the lower bottom was the motherboard, the video cards, the memory cards, the ram, but not the damn fans, which seem to be in a little world of their own that I can't seem to reach without the use of a saw.
So, i bought some pressurized air to clean them, but the problem remains that I'd rather like to know HOW one should go unscrewing the *little world* the fans are in? (the laptop is an Inspiron 1724)
And now I actually now I've been cleaning the outer fans, (the ones which bring outside the hot air) and not the inner ones. (Now i'll have to use the air thingie again!)

Just wanted to stick my nose in on this one?  Are you sure it's a Inspiron 1724 and not a 1764?  I can find a 1721 and a 1764 on the Dell website.

Also, while it has been stated that laptops are not designed to be user-servicable, Dell is one of the nicer companies when it comes to publicly available info.

Dell Inspiron 1764 Manuals which includes a service manual and instructions for complete teardown.

I wouldn't recommend it though, unless you really have to.  You'll also want a lot of patience and a delicate touch, laptops are some of the worst things to disassemble, irregardless of the OEM manufacturer.

In most cases, they're not built by Dell or HP or Acer, they're built by another company, and the only difference is the badge labeling.  The company that handles the actual manufacture is called an ODM.

I did onsite warranty repair work for a few years for the various OEMs.  There's nothing worse than accidentally breaking one of those ridiculously tiny cables that goes to something important on accident or snapping the connector on the motherboard off.

Ultimately though, a desktop is so much easier to maintain and clean.  Unless it's an Ultra Small Form Factor, those tiny "desktops" are often worse than the laptops.
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yeah, sorry, it's a 1764. I've got both the 1721 and the 1764 (so I mashed them up together with the power of alzheimer!)
it works fine by itself, after it gets *cleaned* for a couple of days, then the dust settles in once more and...
From fifty to thirty and from thirty to ten fps is a matter of time.
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“Well,” he said. “We’re in the Forgotten hunting grounds I take it. Your screams just woke them up early. Congratulations, Lyara.”
“Do something!” she whispered, trying to keep her sight on all of them at once.
Basileus clapped his hands once. The Forgotten took a step forward, attracted by the sound.
“There, I did something. I clapped. I like clapping,” he said. -The Investigator And The Case Of The Missing Brain.
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